Why did Snape call Lily a 'Mudblood'?/ Drama triangle
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Tue Oct 2 14:57:57 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 177647
> lizzyben:
>
> This scene actually does work for me & it makes sense from
> a psychological standpoint. As I was flipping through a psych book
> about "scapegoating" (regarding Slytherins), I came across an
> interesting theory - it's called Karpman's drama triangle. And
this
> theory *perfectly* describes what happened in Snape's Worst Memory.
Magpie:
What a fascinating theory! It's funny because it totally goes along
with something I've said for years, that I only now realize is
exactly the same thing. I used to say that in the Potterverse there
are essentially three types of people: bullies, victims and
protectors from bullies. Only bullies and protectors are often the
indistinguishable, and Victims grow into either one or the other.
I thought this because it seems like power is just such a motivating
force in this universe, the thing everyone dances around. It very
much relates to the definition of courage as well--courage implies
power in terms of power over onesself. In DH when they're under
Voldemort's thumb the Malfoys mostly lack the courage to throw off
the victim role, unlike courageous Neville who stands up to the DEs
without becoming a persecutor. Harry ultimately "defeats" both his
bullies by rescuing them--it's not like he experiences that with one
and then also gets on the receiving end by being rescued by someone
he hates. (That issue is sidestepped with Snape--Snape's story is
immediately something to taunt Voldemort about--not because he's got
any reason to care about Snape emotionally, but it shows he made a
mistake.)
That's a bit of a tangent, but anyway, yes, the books have always
been obsessed with bullying and abuse. I would say the role of the
Rescuer is elevated to the highest status, though I'm not sure if
the mixed motivations are ever really acknowledged.
What do you think? Because I find myself always very suspicious of
mixed motives in this area, but I'm not sure if they're
intentionally there. To use another obvious example of the obsession
with this dramatic triangle, was Snape wrong for resenting James for
saving his life? Was it just a sign of his immaturity? Because
ultimately that's rather what it seems like to me, given what we
ultimately learned about the Prank and the way Lily was portrayed.
(And maybe even the way Harry's "saving people thing" was never
really deconstructed and...well, a ton of other things.) We could
probably get into Peter's death there as well. Harry saves Peter who
doesn't deserve it, which means he owes him and gets killed later. I
personally didn't see much remorse in Peter, but that seemed to be
the way Harry insisted it worked: Peter ultimately did acknowledge
Harry as his noble rescuer and so felt remorse.
-m
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