Harry, impossible to kill?
Steve
bboyminn at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 5 07:20:24 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 177740
--- "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at ...> wrote:
> ...edited...
>
> Jen: I'm trying to work this out in my mind. So the
> AK killed the soul piece and destroyed the container.
> But because Harry's tethered to LV he can't really
> die, just as LV can't really die; ...
>
> When I said the AK 'almost killed Harry in the
> process, now that sounds incorrect. I was thinking
> he couldn't have died because he didn't 'go on.' But
> that's the point, Harry's not dead because he's
> tethered to LV, not because he wasn't actually
> killed. ...
bboyminn:
Here is the thing you need to consider, that death
comes in levels, it is not always absolute and
irrevacable. And, I've been saying this for years.
People /technically/ die on the operating table all
the time. Some even have out-of-body and near-death
experiences. But they come back.
So, as a result of the AK, Harry is technically
dead. He is having a near-death experience, and like
many near-death experiences, he meets a loved one
who acts as his guide. Many times this loved one
simply tells them it is not their time and that
they must go back. In Harry's case, Dumbledore
explains that Harry has a choice; go on or go back.
Harry choses to go back.
As to the Death Curse itself, I'm not sure it
rebounded in the normal sense, but I do believe that
some of its power blew back on Voldemort and put him
in a state similar to Harry. Perhaps rather than a
rebound, it was more like a literal or metaphoric
shock wave as a result of someone who is protected
from death, being hit by a Death Curse. I don't
necessarily believe that Voldemort was having the
same experience as Harry, meaning that Voldemort was
somewhere but not necessarily Kings Cross.
So, my central point, and the one relevant to Harry's
experience, is that it is possible to die without
being irrevocably dead. The 'container' has been
destroyed by technical death, but Harry hasn't truly
crossed over yet, so he still gets to come back from
death. Without a viable container the Soul-Bit is
lost; so in that instance, mission accomplished.
I believe if Harry has chosen to 'go on', Voldmort
would have also lost his body, and would have then
become Vapormort-II. But that doesn't solve the
problem, it only delays it. By coming back, Harry
has a chance to destroy Voldemort once and for all.
So that is the choice he makes.
Now, in the final Duel, several things are coming
into play, and in that case, we get a true and total
rebound of the Death Curse. Voldemort is no longer
protected, so he dies. But what made the final curse
rebound? It could be complex or it could be simple.
It maybe that Harry simply casting /any curse/ at the
moment that Voldemort sends his curse, caused the
rebound. That has been demonstrated several times
in the series. It could have been Lily's protection.
It could have been the Master-of-the-Wand effect.
It could be Harry's self-sacrifice. Or, it could be
a combination of all or some of these things. We will
never know for sure, all we do know it that Harry had
many things working for him in that final confrontation,
and all or some of them worked.
Just a thought.
Steve/bboyminn
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