Gryffindor & Slytherin roles (was Villain!Dumbledore)

[sistermagpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 177771


> > Magpie:
> > So they're fine the way they are. They don't need to be 
challenged 
> > in this way and they weren't. Though the last thing I'd call any 
one 
> > of the Trio was powerless, and I actually don't think there's 
> > anything wrong with pointing out the power kids often do have 
over 
> > other kids and other people. 
> > 
> 
> Pippin:
> Um, no, they're not fine the way they are. But sometimes the need 
for 
> reassurance is greater than the need to be challenged. Despite all
> the wonders Harry can perform,  in each book except the last he is
> ultimately rescued by an adult*, and that says something about the
> relative power of adults and children in the Potterverse and in RL.

Magpie:
I see nothing in the books that indicates that Harry and Herimone 
especially are not fine the way they are, people that others should 
be learning from and not vice versa most of the time. Being rescued 
by an adult has nothing to do with what I was talking about. In that 
area he seems equal to or better than the adults of his world.

Pippin:
> 
> As Harry's story shows, even middle-class kids from nice families
> are not always well cared for. But even when they are, they still
> live in a world haunted by terrorism, school-shootings, and global
> threats of war and natural catastrophe against which they can do
> almost nothing except learn and hope.

Magpie:
I don't see how this disagrees with what I said. It seems to 
compeltely agree with it. Harry is like a good thing haunted by 
living in a world of bad things. Why would he have to be challenged 
as part of the problem? It's things outside of him that are the 
problem. None of these have to do with bigotry or examining one's own 
flaws. It seems more ilke a reason that the stuff I brought up 
doesn't need to be dealt with, not a way of dealing with it.

-m