In Harry Potter Order of the Phoenix

simonsebastiansmith simonsebastiansmith at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 13 00:31:37 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 177930

> Amanda wrote:
> <snip>
>Fudge's paranoid delusion that hold on to so tightly in the Order of
>the Phoenix should have been portrayed to have been worse on his
>part as his decisions greatly affect the outcome of daily life of
>the muggles in The Half Blood Prince.
>

Simon:
Do you mean the author or the characters? The author certainly makes 
it clear that Fudge was never a good leader in peacetime, let alone 
war, but you must remember that the Ministry is corrupt and would 
have let him keep his position.


>Amanda wrote:
>The Stance that Fudge held so strongly in OotP should have made him
>look different in the eyes of the ministry, instead they gave him a
>job without the full power but left in position to influence the
>outcome of the ministry in THBP.
>

Simon:
Again, the Ministry was corrupt and unwilling to properly learn from 
its mistakes on decieving the people. Fudge had done a good job in 
that respect, so his position as advisor probably consisted of him 
telling Scrimgeour how to twist the news.


>Amanda wrote:
>In your opinion, How could The fact that Fudge ignored the stirrings
>of what had happened, lined up with what had happened in the past,
>(and have allowed it to get so far out of hand) before taking the
>steps to stop it when they had the chance to. Not have been visited
>more in the book?
>

Simon:
He knew he wasn't good enough to lead WW Britain against Voldemort. 
His (presumably) more competent predecessor had had difficulty enough 
the first war through, and considering Dumbledore's comment 
about "precious little to celebrate in eleven years," never had any 
real successes against Voldemort. Fudge didn't want to even try.


>Amanda wrote:
>How could Fudge have completely ignored the fact that Dumbledore was
>the only Wizard the LV was ever scared of, and try to completely
>remove him from power? Looking for your opinion.
>

Simon:
He (like Scrimgeour) had to do SOMETHING. The best thing to do, 
seeing as Fudge didn't want to admit Lord Voldemort's return because 
of the trouble that would mean for him personally, would be to 
silence the opposition. And that's exactly what he did.


>Amanda wrote:
>How can with all the facts from above not be linked to the fact it
>could have been seen that Cornelius Fudge could have working for LV
>unknowingly? Just looking for opinions again.
>

Simon:

Because he was refusing to admit the return before anyone would have 
had a chance to curse him. Only Crouch and Wormtail were acting under 
Voldemort's orders in Book 4, as proven by the way he speaks to all 
of the Death Eaters who answer the call. If Crouch had cursed Fudge, 
it would have worn off during the Kiss and the Fudge would have 
cooperated with Dumbledore from the beginning. It was the way Fudge 
was already acting, therefore, he would not have been cursed.





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