[HPforGrownups] Reacting to DH (was:Snape Reduced LONG(was: Re: Villain!Dumbledore...

[Janette]

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> Betsy Hp:


Second, I think Slytherins are seen worthy of positions that are kept
safely beneath Gryffindors.  The lack of equality is strongly implied
in the text.  A Slytherin may come *close* to achieving Gryffindor-
like goodness.  But only close.  To becoming like a Gryffindor.
Which, yes, I don't have to strain to see.  It's very much there in
all its bigoted glory.

montims:

OK, I've stayed away fron this discussion so far, but really...  All this
Gryffindor "goodness" and Slytherin "evil"...

I am good, but poor, as is my husband, in jobs we enjoy, that mesh with our
principles.  In my work I have to acconodate very rich people - lawyers,
bankers, etc.  They live an entirely different lifestyle from me, and were
educated at universities I have never been near, and maintain the principles
and values they were raised in.  I could not do a lot of what sone of these
people do, and live with myself, but that is because I have different
priorities.  Are they "beneath" me?  Am I "beneath" them?  Is the lawyer who
makes a great amount of money defending, and getting off, criminals, or his
opponent who has becone rich by putting away the innocent, evil?  Is the
doctor who has a huge yacht and several houses because of his reputation as
a plastic surgeon, even though some of his patients subsequently die, and
most of his patients, in my opinion, need therapy not unnecessary surgical
intervention, evil?  Because I would not want to do that, and I am good?

Slytherins are the rich children of the powerful people.  They have always
existed, they go to the right schools and do the right jobs, and run the
country when they are older.  While they are young, they are obnoxious.
That is the way it has always been.  They see each other as good people, and
a lot of them do a lot of good in their lives.  Others don't.

Gryffindors are poor but honest...  (drawing with a very broad brush here -
bear with me please).  Some marry up, some end up feckless and lawless, but
basically we are talking about the backbone of the country, who do the
normal jobs that keep the world turning.  They see each other as good
people, and a lot of them do a lot of good in their lives.  Others don't.

Does it really matter?

Betsy Hp:
I didn't think we were talking basic economics.  More the
socioeconomic factors that helped spread modern man over pretty much
every land mass on the globe, and are causing serious race issues in
Europe.  I do suspect JKR's not got a clue about such things, despite
her work-ethic.

montims:

Serious race issues in Europe?  Europe is one landmass and one country now,
and all "race issues" are the same, and occur in every country in Europe but
nowhere else?


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