CHAPDISC: DH5, Fallen Warrior

[potioncat]

No: HPFGUIDX 177995

> 1. What did you think of Harry's greeting of Andromeda when she 
came 
>in?

Potioncat:
You really can't blame him. He doesn't really know Ted, and now he 
sees Bellatrix! I thought it was a nice touch that Harry wanted to 
apologize, but was uncomfortable about how to do it.

> 
> 2. The big question: This is the only time we meet Andromeda Black 
> Tonks. Was it enough along, with the other background we know of 
her, 
„« to label her a "good Slytherin"?

Potioncat:
Is it Sirius's comment or Draco's comment that places her in 
Slytherin? But, yes, if she was in Slytherin, then she earns 
the 'Good Slyherin" seal of approval.
> 
„« 3. In your eyes, was this enough grieving for Hedwig?

Potioncat:
No it wasn't enough grieving for my eyes. I needed longer. But it 
fits very well in the story. No matter how sad Harry felt, there were 
people in danger and a war going on. Also, Hedwig's death comes as 
Harry becomes a man. A fitting exit, since her name may be inspired 
by St Hedwig, the patroness of orphans.


> 
„« 4. Whimsy Question: What did you think of Ted Tonks' description?

Potioncat:
Not at all what I expected!  And it serves as well as anything to 
contrast Andromeda from her sisters. I would like to have seen more 
of this couple.


 
> 5.  What do you think of the security checks, especially Lupin's 
> check for the real Harry? Did it raise any red flags when Lupin 
„« failed to check Tonks and Ron?

Potioncat:
This had ESE!Lupin written all over it. For the rest of his chapter 
and most of the next, I alternately suspected Lupin or anyone who 
hadn't been checked. I was well into the book before I decided Lupin 
was OK.

 
 
> 7.  How did you like this waiting and wondering what's happened to 
> everyone? Did you feel the suspense of the situation or were you 
> annoyed it was taking so long? When George showed up all bloody, 
did 
„« that make you more fearful for the missing remainder of the group?

Potioncat:
It was very suspenseful and worked for me. I had thought, at the end 
of the previous chapter, that Hagrid was the fallen warrior, so I was 
expecting something bad. At first I didn¡¦t  expect George to survive.


 
> 8.  What did you think of the way Lupin greeted Tonks? Did you find 
„« something odd about their whole interaction?

Potioncat:
Well, at a re-read, knowing Lupin is one of the good guys, he just 
seems very tense. It would be hard to fight along side your wife. At 
the first time, I wasn't sure and it made him seem even more ESE.


 
> 9.  Mad-Eye, the Fallen Warrior. Did you see this coming? Did you 
> think it would be Mad-Eye? What did this portend for the Order when 
> their toughest, most skilled member gets killed in their first 
action 
> without Dumbledore? (Little did they know that, in a twisted way, 
it 
 did include Dumbledore)

Potioncat:
I was angry that he had Mundungus with him. What in Merlin's name 
possessed Moody to bring Mundungus at all? Did he suspect 
Confundungus? And if Moody thought the DEs would go after the 
seasoned aurors, why didn't he and Kingsley have more experienced 
riders? That was a big risk he put Hermione in.

 
> 
10. Whimsy Question: Have you got a better joke than George's?

Potioncat:
A hag, a troll and a¡K¡Kno, I don't.
> 
> 
> 11.  Though Bill seems to exonerate Mundungus from being the 
> betrayer, the group still seems to blame him for Moody's death. 
Does 
„« this sound reasonable?

Potioncat:
Yes. He should have fought. 

 He was the source, though he doesn't know it, and it's sort of 
ironic that the very thing that helps exonerate him was  "his idea" 
which came from Snape.

 
> 
> 12.  In OotP, Molly accuses Sirius of thinking of Harry as the 
second 
> coming of James. What about Lupin and his bringing up how Harry is 
> being like James, again? (Remember in HBP, the "furry little 
problem" 
> quip). Is Lupin guilty of seeing too much of James in Harry, or is 
it just natural to see something of the father in the son?

Potioncat:
Sirius and Severus confuse Harry with James, but I think in this case 
Remus is making a valid comparison.


> 
> 13.  What did you think of Harry's pronouncement that he needed to 
> leave? Was this just another irrational Harry saving-people thing? 
> What was the purpose of having Harry come up with these musings? 
(No, 
„« really, I want to know!)

Potioncat:
He feels responsible for putting the others in danger. He's right, 
but so are they. I don¡¦t think he would feel quite the same if he had 
already known he was a 'pig for slaughter.'  His feeling of 
responsibility is very important for what will play out.


> 
> 14.  Did you think the self-spelling wand was going to go 
somewhere? 
> Did you get that it *was* the wand, or did you think it really was 
„« coming from Harry?

Potioncat:
I was as confused as Harry and LV. Reading it now, I see how JKR was 
setting up the Elder Wand myth.


> 
> 15.  The VoldeVision is Back! Is Hermione's fear rational? For that 
> matter, was Dumbledore's advice/plan in OotP rational, or was he 
> making excuses for his well established penchant for secrecy? That 
> is, should Harry ever have been trying to shut out theses visions, 
or 
> had just been told that they are usually real visions but that they 
„« *could* be fake visions projected by LV for Harry's consumption?

Potioncat:
Perhaps it would have been more prudent to teach how to tell the 
difference.


> 
„« 16.  Whimsy Question: What was the Thestral *grazing* on?
„« 
„« Potioncat:
„« Mice, grasshoppers, garden gnomes?  I know, meat eaters don't 
graze, and I don't know if it's a flint or if they are omnivores. For 
what it's worth, my dog will graze, especially in the spring. Of 
course, it's not a good idea to bring her back inside too soon 
afterwards.


> 
> What did I miss? What question did you have from this chapter that 
„« wasn't asked?

Potioncat:
We know at this point that Snape had given correct information to LV, 
Did that change anyone's opinion of his loyalty? Who did you suspect 
was his contact? Do you think Snape thought he was following the real 
Harry Potter? 

Thanks Mike, for a great set of questions and summary!