CHAPDISC: DH5, Fallen Warrior

[va32h]

No: HPFGUIDX 178024

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mcrudele78 at ...> wrote:

> Part I Questions:
> 
> 1. What did you think of Harry's greeting of Andromeda when she came 
> in?

va32h:

I guess it could be blamed on his confused state?  Not really
appropriate.  He was unnecessarily rude. 


> 2. The big question: This is the only time we meet Andromeda Black 
> Tonks. Was it enough along, with the other background we know of her, 
> to label her a "good Slytherin"?

va32h:

No.  She could have been an interesting character.  Yet another wasted
opportunity in DH. 

> 3. In your eyes, was this enough grieving for Hedwig?

va32h:

Yes.  Perhaps a recollection on Harry's part that she had been his
first birthday gift (and from Hagrid no less)

> 4. Whimsy Question: What did you think of Ted Tonks' description?

va32h:  Um, it was fine.  Again, sounds like an interesting guy.  Too
bad we didn't know more about him, or we might have actually cared
when he died!


> Part II Questions:
> 
> 5.  What do you think of the security checks, especially Lupin's 
> check for the real Harry? Did it raise any red flags when Lupin 
> failed to check Tonks and Ron?

va32h:

No, I was still reeling from the whole stupidity of the escape plan. 

> 6.  Do you buy Lupin's pronouncement that Expelliarmus has become 
> Harry's signature spell? Or is that just foreshadowing? What about 
> Sectumsempra as Snape's signature spell? 

va32h:

Well it's interesting that Lupin never mentioned "Snape's signature
spell" before...and it's hard to see "Expelliarmus" which is such a
basic spell that any 2nd year can pick it up, as being anyone's
"signature".  I guess "Wingardium Leviosa" is Ron's signature, since
he's done it twice!

> 7.  How did you like this waiting and wondering what's happened to 
> everyone? Did you feel the suspense of the situation or were you 
> annoyed it was taking so long? When George showed up all bloody, did 
> that make you more fearful for the missing remainder of the group?

va32h:  I figured somebody would be dead. 

> 8.  What did you think of the way Lupin greeted Tonks? Did you find 
> something odd about their whole interaction?

va32h:  I felt that Lupin really did not want to be with Tonks. 

> 9.  Mad-Eye, the Fallen Warrior. Did you see this coming? Did you 
> think it would be Mad-Eye? What did this portend for the Order when 
> their toughest, most skilled member gets killed in their first action 
> without Dumbledore? (Little did they know that, in a twisted way, it 
> did include Dumbledore)

va32h: Sigh!  The whole "Seven Harrys" plan was just so ridiculously
dangerous and unnecessary.  Needless complication after needless
complication.  I found it hard to believe that Moody - the defensive
genius - actually came up with it.  If Slughorn could transfigure
himself into a chair, surely Moody could have turned Harry into a
suitcase and had him carried out of the house by Ron and Hermione who
were polyjuiced into looking like Petunia and Vernon. Or one of
hundreds of methods that would surely have been much less dangerous
than what they actually did.  If Seven Potters was Moody's idea, he
sort of deserved to die for his stupidity!


> 
> 11.  Though Bill seems to exonerate Mundungus from being the 
> betrayer, the group still seems to blame him for Moody's death. Does 
> this sound reasonable?

va32h: No, Dung was right.  It was a crazy plan (see above)

> 12.  In OotP, Molly accuses Sirius of thinking of Harry as the second 
> coming of James. What about Lupin and his bringing up how Harry is 
> being like James, again? (Remember in HBP, the "furry little problem" 
> quip). Is Lupin guilty of seeing too much of James in Harry, or is it 
> just natural to see something of the father in the son?

va32h:  Perhaps it is necessary to warn Harry not to make his father's
mistakes (trusting too much)

> 13.  What did you think of Harry's pronouncement that he needed to 
> leave? Was this just another irrational Harry saving-people thing? 
> What was the purpose of having Harry come up with these musings? (No, 
> really, I want to know!)

va32h: To remind us yet again what a noble guy Harry is.

> 14.  Did you think the self-spelling wand was going to go somewhere? 
> Did you get that it *was* the wand, or did you think it really was 
> coming from Harry?

va32h:  I had no idea.  Didn't like it though.  Too soon in the story
for a deus ex machina.

> 15.  The VoldeVision is Back! Is Hermione's fear rational? For that 
> matter, was Dumbledore's advice/plan in OotP rational, or was he 
> making excuses for his well established penchant for secrecy? That 
> is, should Harry ever have been trying to shut out theses visions, or 
> had just been told that they are usually real visions but that they 
> *could* be fake visions projected by LV for Harry's consumption?

va32h:

Once they realized that Voldie could not possess Harry (at the end of
OoTP) they should have milked the connection for all they could.
Hermione is being overcautious.

> 16.  Whimsy Question: What was the Thestral *grazing* on?

va32h:  Gnomes!