Likeable Regulus and some Draco

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No: HPFGUIDX 178054

Mike:
<SNIP>
> > Does that make him a better person, if my postulation is correct? 
> In 
> > my mind, yes. Beleiving your parents, parroting their ideals is 
> not 
> > admirable in and of itself. But thinking yourself special is much 
> > less distasteful than espousing bigoted pulchitrude. 
> 
> Magpie:
> So, wait. Regulus was another one of those DEs who actually wasn't 
> being racist by joining the DEs even though that seems to be the 
> most obvious belief they espouse? Does this apply to Draco to? 
> Because they seem exactly the same to me. < SNIP> 

Alla:

Heee, I am not Mike, cannot speak for him, but can totally say for 
myself. I can totally agree with you, because I am not willing to say 
that Regulus was not being racist when he joined. Of course he was 
IMO. 
So, yeah. Agreed - exactly the same.


Magpie:
> I think Regulus is pretty much absolved in the end too--he made the 
> greatest sacrifice he could to bring Voldemort down. But I still 
> agree with Adam's point as I understand it. 

Alla:

And **that** is where Draco and Regulus for me stop being exactly the 
same and become incredibly different. I do not remember Draco making 
the greatest sacrifice to bring Voldemort down. I mean, you did not 
claim he did, I am just saying that Regulus for me is a hero, Draco 
is not for that reason.

Magpie:
I still consider him a 
> DE who did something brave when something he loved was threatened--
> whether this led to a change of heart and seeing that his other 
> beliefs had been truly wrong and that he had *therefore been evil 
> for espousing them to begin with* I don't feel confident in saying 
> at all. I think Regulus was always brave--he joined the DE to help 
> the holy cause of putting Purebloods in charge or everyone else and 
> getting rid of Muggle-borns. It's possible he rejected those 
beliefs 
> along with Voldemort. It's also possible he didn't.

Alla:

I already said upthread why I feel I do. Just the simple fact of 
dying for house elf and hoping that Voldemort's reign will come to 
end - this to me signals change of heart.

OR to contradict myself, maybe indeed Regulus deluded himself into 
him believing pureblood ideology from the beginning and never did?

That is again, not to say that he did not join with thoughts of being 
a racist, I totally think he did. Just that maybe in his heart of 
hearts he never was, because if you love house elf that much, could 
you truly believe in your heart of hearts that purebloods rule and 
everybody else should die is the way to go?

I do not know, I am not sure about this last part (stucks her tongue 
at Zara). I did know people who claimed that they have jewish best 
friend, but all other jews are horrible ( substitute for any race or 
ethnicity). So, I think it is totally possible that Regulus was a 
true believer in Voldemort's crap and then changed his mind.

But I am on the fence. And of course, Snape here comes to mind, whom 
I honestly think despised Muggleborns with great passion unless their 
name was Lily. So, I do not know.

But whether Regulus was a true racist when he joined or not, and 
again I think he was ( large part of me, lol), to me it is clear that 
when he died, he was not.

JMO,

Alla