Could Harry have saved Snape? (was Reacting to DH...)
dumbledore11214
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Thu Oct 18 21:41:17 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 178074
Pippin:
>
> Shacklebolt says "Every life is worth the same and every life is
worth
> saving." (quoting from memory) He doesn't carve out an exception
> for suspected murderers who gave you a hard time in school.
> Which is a good thing, IMO, because otherwise one would have to
> approve of Snape wanting to turn Sirius over to the dementors.
>
> I agree it's very realistic that Harry doesn't even think of trying
to
> stop Voldemort from killing Snape. But that doesn't make it *right.*
Alla:
Well, I disagree. NOT with every life worth saving, but with that is
somehow not right for someone who thinks that other person is DE and
murderer to not save that person.
Frankly, I would indeed only expect that from the Saint. But that is
just me of course.
Again, would you expect Harry to try and save Bella? I would find it
not only wrong, but also quite idiotic, since her response can be to
attack Harry again.
As far as Harry knew, Snape could have turned around and kill him, no?
And yeah, before you ask, I think Harry's try for some remorse to
Voldemort was quite idiotic - in character, but idiotic IMO.
Try for some remorse Riddle, and then what? We will forgive you and
let you go free? I wonder.
ETA:
Ugh. That is what happens when one hits send too early.
Snape wanting to throw Sirius to dementors? I do not see Harry
feeding Snape to Nagini or exposing him to Voldemort, then I would
see the comparison.
I would **never** say for example that Snape had any sort of
obligation to **save** Sirius from dementors in forest, if he truly
thought that Sirius was a raving murderer. Inaction in this situation
to me would have been fully understandable.
It would have been nice if he did that, but why would he? Just as I
think it would have been nice if Harry did that, but not find it
wrong.
It is the **action** of Snape is what I find disagreeable and yeah, I
would not like if Harry actively sought Snape's death and then found
out that he was innnocent too.
Again, every life is worth saving, and I am truly happy for both
characters and people in RL, who could find it in themselves to save
the person who did them that much wrong.
Without any irony I find them to be noble of the noblest. BUT the
fact that I find such action commendable without any irony
whatsoever, does not mean that I will **judge** those characters who
would not save the one who wronged them that badly and who as far as
they are aware is a traitor and murderer.
And as I also said above, I think that but for the shock, Harry may
have done that too. I truly think that he is into saving people.
BUT even if he would not have done that, I do not begrudge him one
bit.
IMO of course.
> > Alla:
> >
> > Isn't Snape going to DE crosses out everything that Harry knows
about
> > him saving lives? I mean, are you saying that Harry could
seriously
> > consider the possibility that Snape is NOT a DE at this point?
>
>
> Pippin:
> What about Sirius? Wouldn't the betrayal of the Potters and the
> murder of thirteen people have crossed out everything that
Dumbledore
> knew about him saving lives? And yet, IIRC, some listees have been
> adamant that Dumbledore failed Sirius rather badly.
Alla:
So do not want to start this debate again, I will just say briefly
that YES if Dumbledore seen with his eyes - NOT heard from anybody
else that Sirius killed thirteen people, I would not held it that
much against him.
Harry saw with his eyes Snape killing Dumbledore. In his mind Snape
was like Bella, was he not?
Nope, I think Harry behaved very realistically. My view of course.
Oh and I also think that if Harry would not have been in shock, he
may have done it contrary to what I just said.
I speculate that it was sort of reliving Tower for him. Speculation
of course.
JMO,
Alla
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