Slytherins / Slughorn / Ron / put-outer / Deskpig / Seven Potters

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 178182

Betsy Hp wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/177823>:

<< From the age of eleven certain children are told they're bad and
disgusting. >>

Does anyone but Gryffindor students tell Slytherins that they're bad
and disgusting? I suppose that Slytherin students express an opinion
of Gryffindors, maybe that they're brainless braggarts and bullies.
Does anyone but Gryffindor students boo the children who get Sorted
into Slytherin? Do the Slytherins boo the children who get Sorted into
Gryffindor? 

While Rowling unfortunately seems to see it as Slytherins are the
epitome of evil and Gryffindors are the epitome of good, to me it
seems that the people in the wizarding world see it as a traditional
rivalry between two school Houses. I don't think the Ravenclaws and
Hufflepuffs get much involved in the red versus green contention,
altho' perhaps a fanfic that I once read was correct in asserting that
the blue versus yellow rivalry was just as strong.

Celoneth wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/177824>:

<< Slughorn ... doesn't refuse to teach all the other students, he
doesn't mistreat them >>

There are only *12* students in sixth year Potions, but by the time
that Ron's birthday comes around (which is in March), he still gets
Ron's name wrong all the time. He calls him 'Ralph' while handing him
the mead. That is not a sign of failing memory; it is a deliberate
insult. Which is a kind of mistreatment.

johnson_fan4rvre48 wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/177898>:

<< He chose to ignore Ron because his father or grandfather were happy
with what they did and did not have further ambitions to go on
farther. So what would helping Ron do to further his own expanding
resume. So he ignored Ron. But was enthralled with Harry and some of
the others becasue of their names. Ginny was only invited becasue she
had some real power and so in his eyes had potential, >>

I guess Rowling needed Ron to be the rejected one in order to make
more trouble between Ron and Hermione for the sake of her plot,
because really it doesn't make sense that Slughorn would reject Ron.
Ron doesn't show a lot of power or ambition, but he *does* have
connections. Such as, he's best friends with Harry and Hermione, and
brother to the Bat-Bogey Hex girl, the owners of Weasley's Wizarding
Wheezes, the Minister of Magic's Junior Assistant, the dragon
wrangler, and the man from Gringott's Bank.

Ceridwen wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/177914>:

<< Dumbledore's light-putter-outer >>

In PS/SS, it was called "the put-outer". When Moody used it in OoP, it
was still called the put-outer. why did she change its name to
'deluminator' for DH? The ugliness of the name 'put-outer' (shouldn't
it be 'putter-out', like 'passer-by'?), and how much simpler it would
be to wave a wand and say 'Nox', led some listies to speculate that
the name was a pun, that in addition to putting out the light i.e.
darkening it, it also put out the good silverware, I mean some kind of
protective spells or spy spells to protect or observe Harry's infancy.

Pippin wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/177942>:

<< she set up the rules of magic so that food, clothing, shelter and
love cannot be conjured out of nothing. It's quirky all right--can
you transfigure your desk into a pig as long as you're not going to
eat it? >>

A desk is not nothing.

On the other tentacle, it could be that a pig transfigured from a desk
is still made of wood inside, so termites could be nourished by eating
it, but humans can't.

va32h wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178024>:

<< The whole "Seven Harrys" plan was just so ridiculously dangerous
and unnecessary. >>

Is it something alchemical? Is there something in the alchemical
process represented by something turning into seven copies?