Lupin and Tonks WAS: I am so happy. There is a gay - Triumph & Tragedy
kiricat4001
zarleycat at sbcglobal.net
Tue Oct 23 23:21:10 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 178363
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman"
<susiequsie23 at ...> wrote:
> SSSusan:
> But. But. But didn't canon show us a Lupin who finally
**allowed**
> himself to love Tonks fully after Harry yelled at him?
Marianne:
Not that I saw. I saw a man happy about the birth of his son, a
child who was spared being a werewolf. But, I don't think we ever
had a moment, other than Harry's thinking he saw Remus and Tonks
holding hands, where Remus ever seemed happy with his
relationship/marriage. Now, that's just me, and it's perfectly valid
to see a father happy about his new son and see a man happy with his
entire family life. It just wasn't evident to me, especially since
we had instance after instance of Remus being clearly unhappy and
clearly regretting his marriage.
SSSusam
> I mean, yeah, we saw resistance and hesitation and surliness and
> *seeming* lack of interest in Tonks. But I never took that as
Lupin
> *truly* not wanting Tonks. I took it all as that insecurity &
fear
> and even *disgust* with himself for not having made sure Tonks
didn't
> become pregnant. I think Lupin was truly tormented about the
> possibility that Tonks had made a horrible mistake in loving him
and
> in the possibility that they could have a child who would either
be a
> werewolf or would be horrified to discover that his/her father was
> one.
>
> All of this struck me as very reasonable on Lupin's part.
Marianne:
Me, too. And I see this in a completely different light. I think
this could also be seen as Lupin realizing he has again fallen into
the pattern he's always shown, which is to allow himself to do what
makes other people happy, not necessarily what he wants or thinks is
the right thing to do. Tonks practically lassoed him in the
Hospital scene in HBP, and everyone else stood around, taking her
side, and telling Remus basically that the way he felt or thought
was wrong, that Tonks's feelings were right. She loved him, and he
was bound to accept that and sail off into the sunset with her, only
later allowing himself to voice his real feelings, that the whole
thing was a dreadful mistake.
Marianne
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