Canon citation requested (was Re: The problems with DD being gay

juli17 at aol.com juli17 at aol.com
Thu Oct 25 16:51:44 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 178475

Shelley wrote:


I presume you mean that you want us to show you DD ever kissing a girl or 
showing evidence that he liked girls as evidence that he was straight. And, 
in that, you won't get any because there are none to show you. Rowling 
didn't go into that. People just assume that because of all the general 
clues don't show any obviously gay tendencies in DD, then he must have been 
straight, or totally uninvolved what-so-ever (which still equates to 
straight in my mind). That is a reasonable assumption- to assume the author 
would tell us if any "unusual" things went on, and that if she didn't, that 
"normal" must have happened instead.




Julie:
What exactly?are the "gay tendencies" you expected to see? Floppy hand gestures, high-pitched
voice, Barbra Streisand records playing in the background? How about flamboyant clothing--oh,
wait, Dumbledore *does*?exhibit that one.

In reality there are no set "gay tendencies" as those are stereotypes. Sure they do exist,
but they don't define the gay population, which is as diverse in attitudes and actions as any 
other population. 

Still you are missing the point, which is that there were NO clues to Dumbledore's sexuality
whatsoever. We didn't hear directly about any romantic relationships--though the closest
one we could infer *might* be romantic would be the close one with Gellert Grindelwald,
implying the possibility that Dumbledore is gay. (He had no other close confidante that
we know of.) Harry, nor anyone else, ever formed any opinion whatsoever of Dumbledore's
sexual interests or orientation from his words or actions. In the area of sexual orientation,
Dumbledore remained pretty much a blank slate, and nothing in canon contradicts him
being gay, or straight, or bisexual, or a eunich. We had no real clue in any direction (again
unless you want to count the flamboyant dress and very close "friendship" with Gellert as
potential clues, clues pointing to gay rather than straight).

As for normal versus abnormal, it is more majority versus minority to me. The majority of
the general population is heterosexual, while a minority is homosexual. No different than
a majority of the population is right-handed, while a minority is left-handed. Minority doesn't
mean "not normal" (except statistically, outside the "norm") in any?standard societal or?
psychological definition (again as a standard, individual societies may differ in their own
definitions for certain minority populations, whether others think it right or wrong to do so).

Julie 
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