[HPforGrownups] Re: "Pathetic" Muggle-borns (Was: JKR messed up........ no.)

[marguerite]

No: HPFGUIDX 178506

On 10/26/07, Carol <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Carol:
>  Maybe Adam (Prep0strus) is right--these wizards are just too dependent
>  on their wands. But Ted Tonks and Dirk Cresswell had wands. Why did
>  they stay in England? Why not hide out in France or Germany or
>  Switzerland or beautiful, sunny Italy, all of which have Wizarding
>  communities? And if they're going to camp, why not conjure a tent and
>  put protective spells on it? If Hermione can do it, why can't they? It
>  seems to me that JKR sacrificed logic to plot in depicting the
>  Muggle-borns, particularly those t

Silmariel:
Exactly. People flee in war times, if they can, why a full trained
wizard couldn't? It's far easier to escape from UK by magical means
than as a muggle, and the world isn't at war, it's just the UK.

Another plot hole.

I see where JKR wanted to lead us, but the fact is people as a whole
of a wizard population never will be as defenseless as in a real
population. They are trained, they have wands. It's like everyone is a
soldier carrying their firearms, ¿how could they be forced into
submission so easily?

Muggleborns are not a small number, I understand that a 5% of a
population could be wiped easily, but they are a lot, more if you add
their families. Why don't they fight or flee? They are wizards!

Though I think it can be done, with enough time, resources, methods
and propaganda, it isn't depicted that way, it's too quick, not enough
state propaganda, not an step-by-step encouragement of genocide, we
get the initial and the final stages of the show rushed up and
ignoring the strength of wizards (muggleborns or not, full wizards
they are, we sometimes seem to forget).

It's only... maybe is just part of the background, she wanted to have
a situation but not to explore it, something that simply works as a
tool, like universal translators in sci-fi storytelling, because,
after all, we want characters to speak to each other, and we don't
care whether it's realistic or not. I think this case borders the
line, she needed the 'weak' part of the population to suffer just like
in real life people would do, so she skipped common sense, that would
lead more to a 'guerrirras' war.


Silmariel