RL-HP breaking up with NT-GW / Draco's Kids / Sirius-Remus/ GG /The Fat Lady
Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
catlady at wicca.net
Sat Oct 27 11:31:33 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 178542
Potioncat wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178247>:
<< I don't see much difference between Lupin distancing himself from
Tonks in this situation and Harry distancing himself from Ginny >>
Alla replied in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178267>:
<< to me the difference is that Lupin and Tonks were already married
(snip) it is not like Violdemort is hunting LUPIN specifically, no? >>
But I wanted to spell it out more clearly: Harry split from Ginny to
prevent LV from finding out that he cared for her on the theory that
if LV found out that HP was in love with Ginny, LV would kidnap and
torture her to lure HP into trying to rescue her, but it was too late
for Remus to conceal that he had a relationship with 'Dora' and anyway
there's no more reason why LV would want to kidnap and torture Remus's
girl than any other Phoenix.
I_am_finally_me wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178274>:
<< Draco and his kids will still wanna cause trouble, and start things
like all Slytherin Kids >>
After Harry and Draco nodded to each other on the train platform,
there is no reason to assume that Draco and his kids will still wanna
cause trouble, except on the theory that all Slytherins want to cause
trouble. That's fine for writing a school story, in which the rivalry
of two Houses over who will win the House Cup is a matter of vital
importance. Then to the Gryffindors it is true that the Slytherins
want to cause trouble (i.e. steal our House cup) and to the Slytherins
it is true that the Gryffindors want to cause trouble (i.e. steal our
House Cup).
But we've gone through the final three books with the contest of good
and evil being far more important than House rivalry. I'd like the
next generation to achieve that House Unity that the Sorting Hat
urged, by reforming the Slytherins if they're really bad, or noticing
that they're not all bad if that is the case.
Pippin wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178276>:
<< unlike Sirius who definitely had more of a gay vibe, especially in
the Worst Memory where he ignored the girls making eyes at him. >>
Oh, Sirius was *pretending* to ignore the girls making eyes at him,
because he already knew that would make them try even harder. I'm sure
he was quite a slut with the witches in his young days. Yes, at the
same time that his *heart* belonged to Moony.
<< But, um, being a metamorphmagus surely Tonks could change her
physical sexual characteristics if desired? >>
Surely changing her face would be more important than changing her
crotch?! Maybe I agree with << I got the impression Lupin's sexual
identity was fluid >> because I'm fairly willing to believe he loved
and lost (i.e. they were killed) Andrea or Lamia after losing Sirius.
But it would awful for 'Dora' and kind of sick for Remus if she had to
turn into an imitation Sirius or Andrea or Lamia for her husband to
love her.
Speaking of Remus, DrCarol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178485>:
<< he wore shabby clothes (which for some reason could not be mended
by magic) >>
I suspect clothing is one of those Five Principle Exceptions, thus
explaining why Molly couldn't transform Ron's second-hand dress robe
into something more modern.
DrCarol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178299>:
<< Grindelwald, who was actually expelled from *Durmstrang*
(apparently for torturing his fellow students or experimenting on them
in some way like some sort of magical junior Nazi). >>
Do we know why Grindelwald was expelled from Durmstrang? I know the
Hogwartians think, to be expelled from a Dark Arts school like
Durmstrang, he must have done something even worse than Dark Arts or
cheating, but my books are packed so I can't check if it says what he
actually did. Krum said the circle-triangle-line (has everyone noticed
that the initials of the three Peverell brothers, C, A, I, were drawn
from that symbol?) was on a wall at Durmstrang where Grindelwald had
drawn (carved?) it. Maybe he was expelled for that piece of graffiti
vandalism, or its context, like maybe maybe he drew it while lecturing
about Death's Hallows to fellow students in direct contradiction to a
professor who had declared that they did not exist, were nothing but a
children's tale.
Carol Cinders wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178439>:
<< Well, what about with people that are overweight? Does JK not like
them? I mean there was "the fat lady". She never even had a name, but
I don't remember anyone having a cow about that, though it bothered me
all along. She deserved to be more than just "the fat lady." >>
If she wanted to be called Queen Margot or Saint Sexburga, she could
have told the students so. The Gryffindors can't get into their living
quarters unless she opens the door for them, so she has great
influence over what they say to her.
va32h wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/178523>:
<< Maybe the artist who painted the Fat Lady didn't give her a name.
Maybe the painting is entitled: The Fat Lady. Not every subject in a
work of art gets a name from his or her creator. >>
I get the feeling that all the paintings at Hogwarts are actually
portraits of dead people and that is why they're able to travel from
picture to picture and have conversations with live people. I don't
know whether Sir Cadogan's pony, and the cow that The Fat Lady hid
behind in another painting, are actualy a real dead pony and a real
dead cow, and I'm not sure if any of the book paintings contain minor
characters like the little girl who hands flowers to the big lady in
one of the movie paintings -- if yes, would the little girl be a real
portrait of someone who died at a much older and larger age?
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