Goblin's view on property

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 176546

--- "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Heeee, let me clarify I guess. First about Greeks -
> if they were  obtained in perfectly legal 
> circumstances, ...
> 

bboyminn:

Yeah, but what constitutes 'legal'. If the people 
pillaging the treasures of a foreign culture are also
the people making or controlling the law, does that
make it right? 

On the other hand, nearly every museum in the world is
filled with treasures pillaged from other countries 
and cultures. So, at the time of that pillaging, they
may not have done anything technically wrong. But, now
today, when we are wiser, we do see this as wrong, and
nearly every country makes it illegal to remove 
historical artifacts without the permission of the 
government. In addition, governments claim any
unearthed treasures in full, and pay a percentage
bounty on its recover. So, the indiscriminate pillaging
and sale of artifacts in the past, has lead to new laws
controlling such action in the present.


> Alla:
> ...
> 
> Oh, and of course before I get that question, 
> regardless what I  think of Goblins' view on property,
> it was of course wrong and not  fair of Harry trying 
> to double cross Griphook. Just wrong, IMO.
> 
> Does it make sense?
> 
> Alla.
>

bboyminn:

Not trying to pick on you specifically, Alla, because
several people have made the same point. First and
foremost Harry DID NOT Double Cross or intent to 
Double Cross Griphook. Harry full and completely
intended to give Griphook the Sword. Griphook merely
failed to clarify the terms of said contract. Harry
WAS going to give it to him, he just didn't specify
when.

If Goblins are a shrewed as the claim they are, then
Griphook would have made the terms of the agreement
crystal clear. However, I don't think Griphook cared
about the terms because he fully intended to take the
Sword and betray the agreement. Though clearly Griphooks
betrayal is merely technical. He agreed to get them IN,
but he didn't agree to get them OUT. A little detail
that Harry didn't bother to clear up in the beginning.

This is always true when dealing with magical creatures
whether Leprechaun, Genies, or Sphinx. They always
work the loopholes to their advantage. If a Genie
grants you three wishes, you better think long and
hard about every possible way you wish can be twisted
against you, because if there is the slightest 
loophole, the Genie will twist it against you.

The same is true between wizards and Goblins, you better
make sure every last detail is worked out, or you may
not get what you thought you bargained for.

My central point is, that I get tired of people saying
that Harry betrayed or Double Crossed Griphook. HE DID
NOT. He fully intended to give the Sword. Griphook
just made assumptions that were not in fact stated about
when and were the Sword would be given. Never good
to make a transaction based on assumptions as both
Harry and Griphook discover.

Steve/bboyminn