Dark Magic/ Ministry and Dementors/ Snape's role LONG

Jen Reese stevejjen at earthlink.net
Sun Sep 2 20:27:39 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 176591

Magpie:
> I mean, why should it be so clear to me that sucking the happiness 
> out of Death Eaters is such a bad thing given everything else I'm 
> told in the books? The question isn't just whether I see that 
> Dementors are scary or awful to be around--obviously they're that. 
> Jen originally listed getting rid of the Dementors (or at least 
> getting them out of Azkaban--I don't know where they are now--
> wandering around looking for victims?) as one of the victories of 
the 
> book, which it isn't if the only reason we know Dementors aren't 
> guarding Azkaban is from a chat where JKR was specifically asked 
that 
> question (because it's not in the book). You might shudder when you 
> think about Dementors--other people shudder when they think about 
> Marietta's scarred face only that's just what she deserved because 
> she's a traitor.

Jen:  That isn't what I said, about victory; I said this was one of 
DD's ideals that came to fruition in the books.  

There's a pretty straight line with the Dementors from the quote I 
provided upthread, to Dumbledore not wanting the Dementors guarding 
the school, to Lupin saying, "if it can, the dementor will feed on 
you long enough to reduce you to something like itself...soul-less 
and evil."  (POA, chap. 10, p. 187)  Finally in GOF, Dumbledore 
advocates outright for the removal of them from Azkaban because 
they're guarding LV's followers and are his natural allies.  The MOM 
persists in allying itself with creatures who are 'soul-less and 
evil.'  I read that the MOM is allying itself indirectly with 
Voldemort and therefore risked the consequences that become part of 
the story in DH - LV takes over the MOM once he gets enough followers 
and infiltrates; the Dementors become not only part of Azkaban but 
the entire MOM.

The Dementors are last seen in the in the camp with Voldemort.  They 
aren't at the MOM or Azkaban because the 'innocent are being released 
from there.'  When Voldemort is defeated, his natural allies no 
longer have a place at the Ministry since they proved they would do 
exactly as DD said.  





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