Florian Fortescue: (was: Peeves / Lily / Slytherins / Ice Cream / ...)

[doddiemoemoe]

No: HPFGUIDX 176658

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" <catlady@> wrote:
> ...
> > 
> > Jen wrote in 
 Catlady wrote:
> > 
> > It's tragic that Florian Fortescue was captured by the
> > enemy (and presumably tortured before being killed), 
> > but saying there was no ice cream anymore is a bit of
> > an exageration. 
 
 bboyminn wrote:
> 
> Sorry...Florian Fortescue captured and killed? I was
> under the impression that Mr. Fortescue's fate was
> unknown, with the only hint being that he might have 
> closed up shop and fled for the duration of the war.
> 
> And that is exactly what I prefer to believe, that
> he simply fled for whatever reason; perhaps he had
> muggle-born relatives. Or perhaps, he realized what
> the wizard world would be like if Voldemort won,
> and figured he could sell ice cream anywhere in the
> world. 
> 
*small snip*
> Steve/bboyminn

Doddie here:

Much as I hate to admit I think Fortescue may have met his demise..

We see him bringing out ice-cream to Harry in POA just giving a 
special treat w/o a request etc...

I think given what we know of cannon may have been tortured by the 
de's because he was friends with Ollivander. Ollivander packed up 
and left, but was found after Voldie delved into Fortescue's mind 
under torture..or he attempted to aid Ollivander in escaping and the 
plan backfired or they were betrayed.

Is this cannon? nope..Do I want forescue gone? NOPE I want Harry 
taking James, Albus and Lily for sundae's at Fortescue's..

I think in Harry's journey though it would be more poingant to have 
Fortescue who liked Harry and gave him special treats as he studied 
die; rather than Ollivander who Harry could never quite decided if 
he liked or not. (I like that...Harry rescuing Ollivander..it does 
have more meaning than if he had only recued Fortescue...but what 
info would DE's want out of Fortescue other than the whereabouts of 
Ollivander? Why keep him alive? They don't want ice cream or special 
recipies for such(yet another thing wrong with the DE outlook on 
life IMHO), they want power and the only recipie we see from them is 
the Voldie recipie*wretching-gag*.

And I do believe it was in cannon that Fortescues shop was a 
mess...If you suddenly pick up and leave what is left behind is 
seldom a mess unless you are of the untidy variety *blushing*..
(Cannon also states that Ollivanders shop was in order but Ollie had 
disappeared.)

I dunno, I always thought that after Voldie returned and that night 
in the graveyard DD may have tried to encourage Ollivander to go 
into hiding..we never get the details or even a hint of them in DH..
(were they edited out or did JKR forget?).

Doddie,
(who likes the Fortescue mystery because it will be easily answered 
in an interview with JKR and may have something to do with the plot 
line, and then again may not. Also, most folks aren't so emotionally 
involved with Fortescue and Ollivander, as they are with let's say 
DD and Snape?)