Ministry and Dementors/Dark Magic

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 176722

> Magpie:
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> Do I need to say a few more times that I get that Dementors are so
> bad because whenever something's happening to the soul in canon that
> signals that it's really bad?
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Alla:

No :)


Magpie:
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 > What I did say, which perhaps causes the confusion, is that there
> are few punishments I would just assume the good guys would be
> horrified by if they did it themselves. They've impressed me too
> many times in this regard for me to really just assume they would
> never do such and such, since if somebody told me to think about the
> cruelest moments in the series I wouldn't immediately think of
> Dementors or only the bad guys. How much worse it is to have your 
> soul eaten is a non-issue for me since it's completely imaginary.
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Alla:

But this is the heart of disagreement isn't it?. You see the 
arbitrarity with the Dementors, because for you those other 
punishments are worse and when you think of cruelest moments in the 
series, you would not think only of the Dementors .

Isn't the point what JKR considers the cruelest moments in the series 
and how **clear** she shows it?

Harm to Marietta was only physical, wasn't it? You consider it awful, 
I ( and JKR as well) in the book universe consider it not awful at 
all.

Especially considering the fact that I see books consistently more 
concerned with spiritual harm over physical. So what is arbitrary 
here?

And, em, what do you mean sucking your soul is a non - issue? Of 
course dementors doing that is fictional, but plenty of people 
believe in the existance of the souls and would consider harm to the 
soul as the most horrible thing that can happen to them, **more** 
than any harm to their flesh.

I do not know if I would go that far, and I doubt that any religion 
would consider me a practicing person, but I definitely believe in 
the existance of the soul as essense of person's humanity and that 
person's soul can be hurt.

So, no it is not a non-issue for me, it is a nice metaphor for 
something I believe in.

JMO,

Alla