Marietta and Pettigrew WAS: Re: Dark Magic (+ a little Marietta)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 176822

> Renee:
> In fact, Marietta is older than Hermione, being in the year above 
her.
> That means she was sixteen at the start of OotP and could very well
> have turned seventeen before the incident took place (it was some 
time
> after Christmas). Hardly a child, in terms of the Wizarding World. 
And
> even if she was a child at the time - well, she gets a very much
> better treatment than Pettigrew.  <SNIP>

Alla:

I just realised  that I see some additional similarities between 
Pettigrew and Marietta. Once when I attempted to rather clumsily 
defend him (as intellectual exercise) I think I was saying that maybe 
his mother was threatened too. I mean, we know that the finger was 
delivered to his mother, JKR made a point of it. And we know that 
Marietta's mother works in the ministry. But we do **not** know that 
Marietta's mother life or limb or even job security was somehow 
threatened, we are just assuming it. Just as we do **not** know that 
Pettigrew's mother was tortured by Voldemort or even threatened. We 
just assume it or I did in any event.

And didn't Peter in the Shack makes allusions to him being supposedly 
tortured by Voldemort? I mean, it is not clear, but I thought it 
could be read that way. Just as the allusions are made that Umbridge 
forcefully interrogated Marietta, except in both case it is not 
supported IMO.

I mean, in TMTMNBN it was done so clearly, so easily - show Umbridge 
feeding veritaserum and voola. JKR opted not to do anything of the 
sort.

I am also fascinated that both Pettigrew and Marietta did not just 
delivered information on other people, they delivered information 
about their best friends. I mean, Cho *was* there after all, member 
of the DA as everybody else. Did Marietta care in the slightest? I 
did not seem to notice.

It is also interesting that Pettigrew was at best **three** years 
older than Marietta when he started his betrayal, so they are quite 
close in age.

Thanks by the way for reminding that Marietta was not even fifteen at 
the time, I completely had in my mind for the longest time that she 
was fifteen.

I also for some reason still vaguely remember a french or italian 
movie I watched long time ago. Do not ask me details or even complete 
plot. It was a **very** long time ago.

But it was about World War II and I remember that at the end they 
executed a sixteen or seventeen year old for treason during the war.

I think ( not sure) it was after the war even, the execution I mean.

I do not even remember what he did exactly - just delivered 
information or something else. What I do remember is that he came 
back to face punishment, that he was really remorseful, I think, not 
sure that he tried to help somehow - to correct what he did.

He was executed anyways. I cried, but his guy's torment  and remorse 
was shown really convincingly. I saw no sign of torment with Marietta.

IMO of course.

Renee: 
> And scarred for life? JKR says she had a few scars left at the end. 
I
> know several people in RL with visible acne scars. They don't look
> particularly bad and lead perfectly normal lives. <SNIP>


Alla:

I know such person really really well.

JMO,

Alla