Marietta yet again.

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No: HPFGUIDX 176907

 "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> you forget that Marietta not only 
> doesn't know Harry (she's in a 
> different House and a different year)

Many LOYAL DA members were in different houses and different years and
many had parents who worked for the ministry (including Marietta's
best friend CHO). And Marietta had been with Harry for about 6 months
in the DA, and must have heard wonderful stories about what Harry did
before his more controversial 5th year; and yet you ask me to say that
it is reasonable for somebody who is not a moral imbecile to conclude
that Umbrage is a better person than Harry. I don't think so!

> she has also been reading in the Daily
> Prophet that he's a liar

As has Luna, but I don't see any pimples on her face.

> You expect more of Marietta than is humanly possible
 
If so then Luna is not a Human Being, nor are most members of the DA.

> Marietta has no way of knowing that 
> Harry's claims are true and Umbridge's are false. 

When Umbridge says "hello" any reasonable person would conclude she is
lying. 

> but in Marietta's view [
] 

Who cares what her view was, who cares what she was thinking?!
Whatever Marietta's view was it had absolutely no relationship to
reality, either morally or physically. You keep saying that it's OK to
be a monster as long as you do evil for this that and the other
grossly ERONIOUS reasons, and I think that's utter nonsense. 

Explaining why somebody became a monster does not make them one bit
less monstrous, and understanding is not the same as forgiveness.
I believe it is unreasonable to expect Hermione to say:

"I must not put a jinx on that parchment because the person who might
betray us to torturers and murders could have had a bad childhood or a
bad hair day or something. And pimples are far too horrible a
punishment to give to a traitor who puts all our lives in danger and
advances Voldemort's cause". 

There is a fine line between kindness and stupidity and if Hermione
had done that she would have stepped way over the line. It would be
the sort of thing that gives kindness a bad name.

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