[HPforGrownups] Re: Dark Magic (+ a little Marietta)/Buckbeak and Draco

[Random832]

No: HPFGUIDX 176911

> Alla:
> But I have to say that since I do not remember you expressing it 
> before.  **Buckbeak** sucks in this scene? I mean, I can understand 
> blaming Hagrid. I do not blame him, I blame little bastard, but I 
> understand how you blame him.
> 
> But Buckbeak sucks?  Amazing.

Random832:
What most people on Draco's side in this thread are saying is: the fact 
that he's intelligent enough to be able to take Draco's words as an 
insult means he is morally obligated to have a certain degree of impulse 
control in his reactions to those words.

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Random832: (not in reply to anyone in particular)
One thing that keeps coming up w/ Marietta is that the anti-Marietta 
crowd are saying that we don't see Umbridge putting any pressure on 
Marietta therefore it must not have happened (even though it would be 
totally in character for Umbridge to do that), whereas even though we 
don't see any canon evidence for Marietta being psychic, nor any other 
way for her to know how nasty Umbridge is, she totally must have known. 
No, when we're not shown something either way, it ALWAYS has to be the 
way that supports _your_ argument. There is, put quite simply, no 
argument that supports Marietta not having been threatened / tortured / 
whatever into giving them up that does not ALSO support her not having 
realized what a terrible person Umbridge is.

As for the decrees - we don't even know that the average student knows 
Umbridge is personally drafting them, as opposed to coming down from 
some committee.

>> zeldaricdeau:
>> I assume she, like me, interpreted the
>> name "Dumbledore's Army" as not completely
>> literal. 
> 
> eggplant107:
> I've lost count how many times I've said this in the last few days but
> if so that is YET ANOTHER thing she was dead wrong about.

Um, it _wasn't_ literal. It was a joke. It's canon that Dumbledore had 
nothing to do with it. Perhaps you mistook the lie Dumbledore told in an 
attempt to shift the blame off of Harry for a fact.