SHIP: my Shipping Post
Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
catlady at wicca.net
Sun Sep 16 21:11:45 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 177099
Nora liliput wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/177091> of
Sirius/Remus:
<< Catlady and Alla, why? Do you see any hint of this? I am interested
in knowing why there is so much fanfic about this matter. It has never
came to my mind reading the books. >>
When Remus found out that Sirius had set him up to be a murderer (the
Prank), Moony readily forgave Padfoot. As in the Shrieking Shack, when
each immediately forgave the other for thinking he had been the
murderous traitor. For that forgiveness to come easily takes a lot of
love.
Love, which could explain why Remus didn't tell Dumbledore that the
wanted murderer Black could turn into a dog to enter the castle
through secret passages -- because his heart could never entirely
believe that Sirius was a bad guy, because his heart couldn't endure
to doom Sirius to death or the Dementor's Kiss. To me, that makes a
lot more sense than being too ashamed to tell DD that the wanted
murderer can turn into a big black dog. He wouldn't have had to tell
DD that he had roamed loose as a werewolf with them, as he could
vaguely hint that turning into a dog was something Sirius had learned
after leaving Hogwarts.
I think no one but the ESE!Lupin theorists doubted their love -- after
all, they "embraced like brothers" -- but only argued that love
doesn't have to be erotic/romantic, that it could instead be
brotherly. Perfectly true, but I happen to LIKE romance and erotica.
Anyway, as I can't have Remus, I'd rather no other woman had him. (As
for Sirius, he used to be quite a slut with the witches -- 'faithful
to you, Moony, in my own way').
It got a couple of boosts -- 'lie low at Lupin's' at the end of GoF,
and "Sit down, Sirius.' and their joint Christmas present to Harry in
OoP. Then Herself went and had Sirius leave Remus completely out of
his will. All I can do with that is assume that Umbridge's laws
prohibited werewolves from inheriting any property, or maybe from
owning any property except the clothes on their backs.
IIRC years ago when I had time to occasionally visit Fiction Alley,
they had named the Sirius/Remus ship the SS Wolfstar. That's not a bad
name, but I never applied for a position in the crew -- what would I
be, anyway, Ship's Cat?
That was a section called SCUSA "Self Contained Underwater Shipping
Apparatus", where I never understood why Harry/Hermione was the SS
Pumpkin Pie. Besides SS Wolfstar, I'd sail the SS Black and Silver
despite not thinking it a very good name -- that was Snape and a
Malfoy. Severus and Lucius, which I ship. Severus and Draco, which I
also ship. I don't recall if it included Severus and Narcissa, which
got a boost from "Spinner's End".
Potioncat wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/177097> of
Severus/Sirius:
<< cannot imagine Sirius and Severus as so much as having a cup of tea
in the same room. >>
Well, they had better grow up and get over it now, because they're in
the same afterlife, maybe for eternity.
(Marianne kiricat, "the *ghost*ship SB/RL" is so good!)
<< What in the name of Merlin's left.....elbow---are you talking
about? First, I'd like to know what ever gave you such an idea >>
Oh, the same argument used for Draco/Harry, Draco/Hermione, and
Ron/Hermione -- that all those quarrels are a form of flirtation.
I never believed the above argument, not even for Ron/Hermione, but I
did wonder why Severus so desperately hated all the Marauders. Rather
than because one of them stole his girl, could it be because one of
them had rejected him directly? Rejection rankles.
Well, Snape has always seemed the most self-suppressing character, the
kind of person who could never ever bear to admit to himself that he
felt a homosexual attraction, so that could be a reason to hate the
person to whom he is attracted, to hate the person for making him feel
something he really does not want to feel.
So I thought it would be logical if he had a crush on Sirius or James,
the ones that everyone (all the girls -- to me that's everyone :) )
had crushes on, and whichever one he had a crush on, he could be
jealous of the other ... but it never worked right. It always seemed
mechanical. Yeah, Sirius could have lured Severus under the Whomping
Willow with suggestions of a secret assignation, but only if Sirius
knew Severus felt that way, and if the adult Sirius knew that, the
knowledge would have shown in his behavior.
The only version that has a touch of life in it (vita-similitude, like
verisimilitude?) would be if it were Remus that Severus had the crush
on, and then his interest in monthly visits to the Shrieking Shack
would have elements of wanting to rescue Remus from being abused and
exploited by his 'friends' as well as of wanting to get James and
Sirius into trouble ... but I can't imagine Snape ever having a crush
on someone as self-effacing as Remus ... and if it were so, Remus
never knew it (until maybe in the afterlife!).
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