Dark Book - Draco - Calvinism

Zara zgirnius at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 23 21:53:28 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 177331

> lizzyben:
> I do think that JKR believes that Harry, Hermione, Ron & the Gryfs 
> have greater goodness of heart, & that they make better choices and 
> take better actions. This was brought home in the Hogwarts scene 
> where more Gryfs chose to stay than any other House, etc. It's just 
> that her definition of "good" might be different from others'. If 
> the Gryffindors really did show greater goodness of heart that the 
> Slytherins, would that work as a Calvinist analogy?

zgirnius:
The text does not actually say Ginny is good when she hexes everyone, 
or Hermione was fully justified in the Sneak Jinx. Are you basing 
your evaluation on interview canon (such as "I hate a traitor", said 
regarding Marietta, or comments indicating Rowling likes Ginny?)

Because if you are, the interviews pose a big problem for your theory 
that the Gryffindors are the Elect, always 'good'. Rowling has said 
that the Sorting Hat is always right, and the Sorting Hat placed 
Peter Pettigrew in Gryffindor. But he's a traitor who gave the 
Potters up to Voldemort, and whose paltry moment of maybe having some 
sort of conscience in DH led to his death (strangled by the hand 
Voldemort gave him). I don't see a reading of the book that would 
support the idea that Peter is one of the Elect. Do you?

> lizzyben:
> There's a similar problem w/the "Christian message" of DH. JKR says 
> that DH reflects her Christian beliefs, and this seems to play out 
> w/Harry's death & resurrection - which seems to parallel the 
> sacrifice & ressurection of Jesus. And Harry is repeatedly referred 
> to as the "chosen one"/messiah. So Harry is Jesus. But how can he 
be 
> Jesus when he's torturing people? 

zgirnius:
HP can have a "Christian message" without Harry being, literally, 
Jesus. "Reflects her Christian beliefs" could refer to something as 
non-specific writing the anti-Muggle-born stuff as wrong. Lots of non-
Christians would agree, but if Rowling's beliefs on such topics 
happen to be informed by her personal religious faith, that's enough.






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