Scattered thoughts on Snape, Luna, and bullying
or.phan_ann
orphan_ann at hotmail.co.uk
Wed Sep 26 22:05:43 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 177452
I'm afraid this is as rambling and disconnected
as it sounds, but hopefully there's one or two
interesting things in here. I think Snape and
Luna are two very similar characters, and my
liking for and identification with them informs
a few points below, rather than anything like,
I don't know, *canon*. This all started when I
was thinking about a few issues I have with the
series, and what I might do about them; and I
thought that JKR should have introduced Luna in
CoS rather than OotP.
It was her first year, after all, and it would
have avoided the rather clumsy-looking addition
of a main character in the fifth of a
seven-book series. I don't necessarily think
she should have been a major character, but
consider the situation: an unknown monster is
stalking the school, Petrifying students, with
mysterious painted messages appearing on the
walls, nobody knows how, promising that the
Chamber of Secrets, a part of speculation and
folklore rather than serious history, has been
opened, and that Enemies of some mysterious Heir
should beware. Nobody knows what the animal is,
who'll be attacked next, or if the Chamber of
Secrets has anything to do with it anyway.
Students are especially worried after it emerges
that the famous Harry Potter can talk to snakes
the symbol of Slytherin and the Twins start
jokingly that he is the vengeful Heir. Luna would
fit in perfectly. In fact, I thought, it probably
happened anyway, and we didn't see it because JKR
was "pointing the camera" elsewhere.
Except that, while she'd be the butt of jokes, they
wouldn't be as friendly as the Twins' were. Look at
the end of OotP: Luna's so used to people stealing
her things that she doesn't even accept Harry's
offer of help finding them again (pp. 759-61 UK ed);
or HBP chapter 7, (p. 132 UK ed), when she says that
the DA "was like having friends", or near the end of
DH chapter 21, (pp. 338-9 UK ed), where the Trio's,
Ginny's, and Neville's portraits are linked by golden
chains of the word "friends". She doesn't see m to
have any other friends *at all*, in her *sixth year*,
and the only other interactions she seems to have are
when other people bully her.
D igression on bullying: I read the recent spate of
po sts on the subject with interest, and if I'd
rea lised I'd be mentioning specific messages, I would
have written this beforehand; I don't want to flog a
dead horse, no matter how interesting its decomposition.
I don' t think that Draco and the Trio's antagonism has
anythin g to do with bullying. The first message I want
to mention is Steve/bboyminn in message 177196:
> Draco threatened Hermione's life. If that makes
> Hermione reasonably fear for her safety and her
> life, she is within her rights to defend herself [
]
> Draco is the provoker. [
] He continual creates
> situations where others are threatened and
> intimidated, and he pay a price for that. [
] He can
> start a fight, he just can't finish it. Not unless
> the advantage is massively on his side.
>
> A little playground taunting is one thing, but out
> and out threats and intimidation call for action.
> When no authorities are there to act on your
> behalf, then you are compelled to act for yourself.
Ann:
JKR doesn't intend Draco to be a bully, but a rival
for and equal to Harry, and in any case he often
seems to be the underdog. He can't bully the Trio
because they are more powerful than he is. They are
three friends, with allies (Neville, the twins, the
DA), and he is one guy with a couple of henchmen.
Harry outclasses Draco in every way he is better
connected, better supported by the adults, appears to
be more popular, is a hero within Hogwarts, *has his
own private army*, and is a better broomstick rider/
Quidditch player; Draco only has a chance when the
adults favour him: in Potions classes and when Umbridge
infests the school. The nearest thing to a fair fight
is in HBP chapter 7, when Draco wins, but only because
he manages to shoot first. In short, whatever Draco
says, words are all he has, and I don't think the
Trio's responding with magic is ever justifiable.
Whatever Draco he says is "a little playground
taunting" even at the end of GoF:
> He jerked his head at Ron and Hermione. `Too late
> now, Potter! They'll be the first to go, now the
> Dark Lord's back! Mudbloods and Muggle-lovers first!'
Ann:
Bullies are more powerful than the bullied, not less.
Draco isn't threatening anyone here, he's just full
of hot air.
> Nita in message 177212:
> Unfortunately, Ms Rowling doesn't believe in this
> solution [telling someone you're being bullied Ann]
> enough to even try it in any of her books. Or
> perhaps she's simply more interested in dramatic
> wish-fulfilment than the boring realistic stuff us
> mortals have to do, which isn't even all that
> effective...
>
> Neville, Severus and Luna don't get to deliver
> amazing smack-downs with the help of friends while
> the readers cheer. It's an interesting imbalance of
> realism
Ann:
Well, there's my answer. There isn't an imbalance of
realism because you're not comparing like with like.
But I do think that solutions to bullying are
realistically depicted in the books, in Neville's case
at least (we see very little of Snape and Luna being
bullied.) He tries fighting back, and ends up flattened
by Crabbe and Goyle in PS/SS chapter 13 (p. 166, UK
ed.) McGonagall can get his Remembrall back for him in
chapter 9 (p. 108), but his refusal to go to her for
help (in chapter 13, p. 160) is, I think, wholly
realistic, and not designed to give JKR room for
"dramatic wish-fulfilment"; the Trio get those. He's
right not to tell a teacher, because Malfoy knows that
he shouldn't be bullying Neville anyway. If McGonagall
told him not to, he'd just jeer at Neville for telling,
and take care not to be seen. What stops Neville's
being bullied is his personal growth, aided by Hermione,
fake!Moody in GoF, and the DA in OotP. Whereupon
Neville's subplot comes to an IMHO abrupt and
unsatisfying halt, but I think this is, also IMHO, the
only truly useful answer for anyone being bullied:
personal growth away from someone who can be bullied,
not into someone who doesn't care. Luna doesn't seem
to have anyone like this around for her. I suspect that
while she seems unaffected by bullying, the damage is
more subtle, and she's gradually moving further and
further away from the real world, possibly to end up
as a semi-recluse, like her father. This is subtle,
insidious damage, and just not caring won't cut it. We
don't know if Lily helped Snape in this way, but I
suspect she did, at least at first.
Back to Luna. She is an extraordinarily isolated
character, and her obvious (to me) parallel is Snape.
They are both bullied outsiders (although Snape is
picked on by the Marauders, while the Twins seem to
leave Luna alone); they are both talented wizards; they
are the only two major characters marked as being
creative (Luna's conspiracy theories and her paintings,
Snape's potions), and they only have one group of
friends, and that a very unusual clique: Luna has the
DA, and Snape the young Death Eaters. This last point
is a bit contentious, as Snape also has Lily, was
popular with Slughorn and perhaps other Slytherins,
but the proto-Death Eaters seem to have been a
clique of their own at Hogwarts and Lily implies that
they're Snape's only friends in "The Prince's Tale"
(pp. 541-2, DH). I think they have three chief
differences: firstly, Luna is much more tranquil and
self-confident than the sneering, hexing, easily
provoked Snape, whose passions are not limited to bile,
but who is from a young age a double agent in desperate
circumstances, all for the love of a girl who doesn't
love him back. We know Luna turns the other cheek; can
you see her changing sides for her father's sake?
Secondly, Luna lacks Snape's critical faculty. This
is an essential part of the creative mind; Snape can
decide which of his new spells and potion modifications
don't work, refining them until he's satisfied. HBP
chapter 12 describes the notes in the Prince's
Potions book as having "crossings-out and revisions
[and] many crossings-out and alterations" for
Sectumsepra in particular (p. 224.) Luna, on the other
hand, will believe in anything if it's ridiculous
enough. In this respect Snape is more of a fully-formed
character, native to the Wizarding World, whereas Luna
is more comic relief, and is an outsider. Note that
Luna never acts on her daft ideas when they would get
in the way of the action: she's happy enough to mouth
off about Crumple-Horned Snorcacks, but never tries to
persuade Harry to teach the DA Aguamenti to douse
Fudge's Heliopath army. (Great spell and monster names,
by the way.) This is also essential to Snape's success
as both wizard and spy: he can't afford to build his
house on sand when behaving so dangerously.
The other difference, I think, is that they trust
people for different reasons. Luna heeds the advice
of those close to her her father, of course, and
Hermione when she summons the DA at the end of OotP
and HBP. Snape, I think, only pays attention to those
he perceives as intelligent, informed and powerful. I
can't think of any canon support for this idea; it just
seems reasonable to me. He doesn't bother paying
attention to the weak or foolish, and only, I think
notices them on special occasions: Neville for blowing
up cauldrons, and Harry for being his parents' son. He
bullies both, but they are things to him, not people.
The people he pays attention to because of who they are
powerful: Dumbledore, Voldemort, Lucius Malfoy (these
categories will have shifted as he grew older: "The
Prince's Tale" implies that Malfoy brought him from
Sorting to Voldemort's side, and they met when Snape
was only eleven and Malfoy a prefect.) Snape's Worst
Memory was a rejection from Lily (pp. 569-72), who, I
think, Snape saw as a refuge from home, Hogwarts, and
the world at large as a strong potential protector.
If they had ended up together, he would have been
subordinate to her. The fact that wizards are
inherently more powerful than Muggles probably ties
into this (Snape/Petunia never had much chance), and
this, of course, leads inexorably in the direction of
pureblood supremacy. This is not especially admirable,
but it's a natural response from a man who has not
only been victimised throughout his entire life, and
especially his formative years, but is also highly
intelligent and ambitious; he reaches this conclusion
from two starting points, as it were. I'd say that
Muggles' individual powerlessness is the other major
cause of wizard/Muggle relations being as antagonistic
as they are. Whether wizards like Muggles or not, they
have to admit that Muggles can't do something that even
wizard children do instinctively; I suppose the best
real-world parallel would be with mentally handicapped
people. And the opportunities there for persecution
and patronisation are legion. (I hope I haven't
fallen into the latter there, or offended anyone in
any other way.)
A final note on Snape
p.521 in OotP (chapter 26)
mentions one of Snape's memories: "a hook-nosed man
was shouting at a cowering woman, while a small
dark-haired boy cried in a corner". Presumably this
is his family, but note that Snape's father was a
Muggle and his mother a witch (pp. 593-4 HBP, chapter
30.) I'm not quite sure what this means; is it a
canon error? Is it an argument against what I think
of Snape's reasons for loving Lily and becoming a
Pureblood supremacist? Or perhaps it shows that Snape
knew from a young age that magical power wasn't
everything. Note that I implied that it was Malfoy's
personality that drew Snape to the Death Eaters, and
when they first met they were prefect and new Slytherin.
and one on Luna. I intimated a moment ago that I
didn't think that she was a very well-written character,
and was too often used as crude comic relief, reading
her magazines upside-down or wearing radish earrings. I
don't think that JKR understands her as well as some of
the other characters (I think the same's true of Neville.)
I also think that these invitations to laugh at the weirdo
compromise JKR's positive messages of acceptance of
marginal people. She has no friends in the book until
joining the DA, but is, I think, one of the most popular
characters in fandom. I think that's because she's too
separate from the readers for us to really know her, and
in consequence, be irritated which is JKR's mistake in
characterising her.
Ann, who didn't mean to go on like this, really she didn't
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