Disappointment Was: Deaths in DH WAS: Re: Dumbledore (but more Snape)

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 28 17:28:13 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 177513

> Pippin:
<SNIP>
>> To insist that there are no more problems at all in the wizarding
> world would be wish fulfillment, and I don't think the all is well
> is supposed to indicate that. There are still problems, but 
> there isn't a Voldemort around that Harry has to fight, and there 
> hasn't so far arisen another one. As you say, it would
> be obvious if the WW were at war. 
> <SNIP>


Alla:

Oh oh neither do I but to me it definitely signals improvement in WW. 
I mean, yeah, here goes another exaggeration of the point (waves to 
Steve). I was trying to say that sign of change is there. NOT that 
everything is necessarily perfect, just better.

I mean, when did JKR devote long descriptions to staff like that? To 
me IMO it again shows how little she can say in few words.

I mean, I understand that it may work for people or not, I just 
disagree that it is not on the page.

I seem to remember people arguing that Dumbledore making sure that 
Harry talks about his experience in graveyard in GoF symbolically 
shows that he was healed after that **ONE** conversation and 
therefore for them it was totally cool that Harry was left alone all 
summer without friendly contact.

It did NOT work for me, that intepretation I mean. I was very angry 
at DD for not letting Harry contact with his friends that summer.

BUT of course it was on the page IMO. That interpretation. It was a 
symbol, shortcut, for Harry many sessions with psychiatrist IMO. I 
found it fall flat for me, but I get how in the book like this it 
often works and same way "all is well" works for me or Harry telling 
his son about Slytherin totally works for me as shortcut as well.

Take another example. Snape's "do not call her that" to Phineas, when 
he called Hermione mudblood.

Do we get pages and pages of Snape thinking about how bad this word 
is, how really sorry he should be that he ever called Lily such?

Nope, we get Lily shutting the door and we get him saying it to 
Hermione, that is it.

And it works beatifully for me. I have no doubt that he changed his 
racist attitudes now. No doubts at all. It took me one reread to even 
catch that remark to Phineas, but OMG I think it is so very cool that 
JKR can say so much in so few words.

Again IMO.



>> Pippin:
<SNIP>
> "You are named for two Headmasters of Hogwarts." This, from the
> guy who couldn't get his mouth around the word "Professor" ! <SNIP>
> It's a very compact way of recognizing all that Snape did,
>  and the honor is in Albus Severus's name. 
><SNIP>

Alla:

Well said :) As I said I just cannot be more amased how many things 
she can convey in so few words :) IMO of course






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