Andromeda as good Slytherin WAS: Disappointment

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No: HPFGUIDX 177568

> Magpie:
> Sorry, hit send too soon.
> 
> That's the great thing about characters you write yourself. They 
can
> be whatever you imagine them to be.
> 
> To me it's a bit of a disappointment that she didn't choose to take
> the one Slytherin characters of this generation and show him 
learning
> to perhaps reject Pureblood values (he puts love ahead of them,
> presumably, since his love for his family seems to be his defining
> trait). Draco no longer seems so driven by Pureblood values in HBP.
> He just doesn't cross over that last Slytherin hump. 
> 
> Lots of Slytherins put love over Pureblood values. They do crazy 
> things for love. They seem to be able to do this without 
necessarily 
> getting to the level of good people. And of course the other 
problem 
> is that if they get too far away from this stuff, they get 
rejected 
> by their house. It's like using Dobby as an example for House 
Elves 
> wanting their freedom. Yeah, he's an example of one who did, but 
he 
> really is some sort of oddity in the end and not the way of the 
> future as far as we see. Andromeda's rejected; Snape keeps his 
> feelings secret. Slughorn is the one example of a "good-ish" 
> Slytherin who remains a Slytherin, but he's not very admirable at 
all.
> 
> Andromeda could have been a nasty Slytherin who turned out to have 
a 
> heart of gold different from any other Slytherin we've seen 
before, 
> or even a flawed person who was still just as good as other 
heroes. 
> Or she could have been somebody thoroughly unlikable who had a 
> passion that ruled her and she was willing to leave her family 
over 
> it while still never being somebody Harry would actually like the 
way 
> he likes her husband and daughter right off. And that's assuming 
> she's Slytherin based on Sirius' comment. 


Alla:

So, tell me then what part of Andromeda did I write myself? Or are 
you saying that we are not even allowed to make first line 
inferences based on canon now?

I said that she put love first over pureblood values. You are saying 
that she did not love Tad and married him for some other reason?

Sorry, but that inference seem less reasonable to me. Because young 
pureblooded girl who seemed to hear all her life that purebloods 
rule ( I mean, it IS reasonable inference based on what we know 
about Black family, no?) must have had strong passion to abandon all 
that, no?

Blacks are rich, so I dounbt she married Tad for money or something.

Tonks in OOP makes no mention that her parents are having problems 
or something, so I think their marriage is pretty okay.

I mean if you want to disregard my inference that Andromeda must be 
a good person because Tonks seems a sweet one to me, okay.

Although then I would say that the argument should work both ways 
and if Draco is so bad because he was indoctrinated by his parents 
values, I would say that it works in reverse too and if child has 
pretty good values, we can reasonably assume that his parents values 
are pretty good.


Oh, and no I do not see how plenty of Slytherins put love over 
pureblood values.

Snape seemed to reject the friendship of muggleborn over his DE 
friends and it took him a long time to figure out his priorities.

We have some of them doing it and I think it meant to show their 
good side.

So, in short I base my respect for Andromeda on what she **did** in 
canon and what kind of kid she has, yes ( but that is of course IMO).

That's it, but to me it is a plenty. I do not give my respect to 
Narcissa and Lucius for how they brought up Draco for example but I 
certainly applaud Molly and Arthur for their kids.

IMO,

Alla