Suspension of disbelief -Idiots of War

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No: HPFGUIDX 182453

Carol:
<SNIP>
As I read the sentence, "his" does refer to Cresswell, but "the wizard
who faked [Cresswell's] family tree" is someone else altogether. (As I
said earlier, Mr. Weasley doesn't seem to know this Wizard's name.)
Whether the Wizard faked Cresswell's family tree for a price or as a
favor to Cresswell or as an act of rebellion against LV's regime is
not clear, but, if I'm correct in my interpretation, he certainly
wasn't faking someone else's family tree to save himself.
<SNIP>

Alla:

Snipping arbitrarily just to say that I see your point. I think my 
interpretation is valid, but I see that yours can be valid too.


> Alla:
Let's see who was HAPPY about Voldemort's reign. On the top
> of my head I remember Bella and
. Bella. Fake Moody would have been
> happy I grant you that.

Pippin:
Off the top of *my* head, Crabbe, Goyle, Pansy, Umbridge and Runcorn
were enthusiastic, to say the least.

Alla:

Okay, five people, but my point is that it is still a very low number 
in comparison to those who were not happy. IMO of course.


Alla:
>
> What failed tactics? I remember Scrimgeour desperately trying to
make Harry work with him.

Pippin:
Yikes! Who are you, and what have you done with the real Alla?
<veg>

The burden of this thread, IIRC, was that the WW should have been able
to fight this war without Harry, and now you're saying that the only
reason Scrimgeour failed was that Harry wouldn't help him? LOL!
<SNIP>

Alla:

LOL, not at all. What I am saying is that you were arguing that 
Scrimgeour tried something for a year and fail and that Order should 
not have tried same failed tactics, no?

And I am saying that the only tactics I remember Scrimgeour trying 
was attempting to work with Harry, zis all.

So, I am just not sure what tactics you think Order should not have 
adopted that Scrimgeour did.
Sorry for being unclear.

The fact that Scrimgeour did not get the big team, does not mean to 
me that if he would have gotten the big team, it would have been 
worse somehow.

Pippin:
<SNIP>
It is canon fact that when Harry did include others in his search, it
wasn't long before someone loyal to the DE's found out what he was
doing. It didn't matter because Voldemort had already realized that
his horcruxes were in peril, but it would have mattered if Voldemort
had realized that they were in danger sooner.

Alla:

Are you talking about Pansy or something else here? I mean,  if we 
are talking about Pansy, I think it is a great example of the 
opposite as well. Yes, sure she found out that Harry is here, but at 
the same time others overpowered her in a sense and continued to help 
IMO. It is just, I wish it all had been done earlier.

If we are talking about different accident, could you tell me which 
one?