Suspension of disbelief - Being dependent
Zara
zgirnius at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 13 05:52:09 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 182503
> > >>Pippin:
> > I think JKR's position is that basic morality is innate. Unless a
> > person is very damaged he will want to do things correctly (as
he's
> > been taught to perceive correctness), he will feel responsible
for
> > the pain he perceives he has caused and he will want things to
be
> > fair.
> Betsy Hp:
> Yeah, I agree that this is JKR's position. It's why being a
> Gryffindor is a free pass. A Gryffindor is innately moral and need
> not worry about any pesky "life lessons". And if you're not good
> enough for Gryffindor, feeling bad about various actions won't fix
> the fact that you're missing the proper moral circuitry.
zgirnius:
I believe what Pippin means is that morality is innate to *everyone*,
except a damaged few, not merely to Gryffindors. (Only Voldemort for
sure, among those we get to know reasonably well). And I agree this
is Rowling's position.
The key to understanding how I can say Slytherins in the series have
innate morality, is that second part, about acting correctly as they
have been taught to perceive correctness. Which is where a character
like Regulus Black comes in. He has been taught to perceive what we
would consider a rather warped idea of correctness, so be becomes a
Death Eater and is not acting against his innate sense of morality
(even while offending ours). He's a "right little hero" in his own
eyes, actually. The callous treatment of Kreacher is what it takes
for him to see/feel a conflict between correct action as he has
understood it, and Voldemort's actions, that he ultimately resolves
by choosing to die in an attempt to make Voldemort mortal.
On the other extreme, we have Peter, who seems to have some idea his
actions are despicable (hence, for example, that little, fatal
hesitation in DH). But despite his perception of what it moral, he
lacks the courage to act on it.
This explains why Gryffindors are for the most part the heroes of
this story, by the way. All the characters have innate morality, but
this is a story of life-and-death struggle and danger...so the brave
characters who can cope with life and death stuiff, come out looking
best.
In a drama about poor witches and wizards struggling to bring up
families under difficult economic and social circumstances, sans
terror and violence, we might see Hufflepuffs emerge as good guys,
for their ability to stick with their families through thick and
thin, and contributing their fair share to community self-help
efforts.
In a story about magical research, Ravenclaws might be the villains,
their desire for new knowledge tempting them into Faustian bargains
and away from their innate sense of which limits they should not
cross in their research. And so on. But in a story about a war
between a genocidal bloodist leader and his followers, and those who
would oppose them, the featured good guys are going to be the brave
folks, and the featured bad guys are going to be the pureblood
believers.
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