Harry's DADA skill was Re: Albus and Gellert/Voldemort's Power

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 27 21:01:04 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182676

> > Alla:
> 
> > 
> > I believe that fact that Harry had a training with Boggart who 
> > immitates the Real Dementor has no bearing whatsoever on Harry's 
> > ability to cast the patronus.
> 
> 
> 
> Potioncat:
> But it had all the bearing in the world! If Boggarts could be made 
to 
> create that same effect for all the kids, then it could have been 
> used for all of them. It was only Harry who reacted the same way to 
> his Boggart as he did to a Dementor. In fact, Harry reacted more 
> strongly to Dementors than other kids did.

Alla:

Look, do you agree that Boggart is like real Dementor in all effects 
it has on the human being, except sucking the soul?

Where do we see any other kid casting Patronus on real Dementor when 
he is Harry's age. That's what I am trying to say is that I find it 
bizarre that the fact that Harry IS able to do so somehow is being 
used against him.


Potioncat: 
> While it is pretty amazing that a 13 year old was able to learn it--
> and it wasn't a pleasant experience--it was an unusual experience.

Alla:

I see no proof that any thirteen year old COULD learn to do that, 
that's my point. Sure, Hary did not manage from the first try, my 
point is that I do not see anybody else who could have managed to do 
so ON THE REAL DEMENTOR, since as far as I am concerned Boggart is 
the same thing in its effects.

> > Alla:
> > Harry had lessons, sure he did, as Beatrice had showed IMO we see 
> at 
> > least hints that other kids have private lessons with other 
> teachers.
> 
> Potioncat:
> Sure, and that's a good point. Harry is like most other kids. 
James, 
> Sirius, Severus and Hermione, however, taught themselves magic 
beyond 
> their years.
>

Alla:

I never argued that Harry is the same as Hermione or Dumbledore. But 
I maintain that Patronus is a magic beyond his years, but of course 
he is not in Dumbledore or Hermione's league.

My objection is to denying what Harry achieved, when his Es somehow 
do not mean much, when his Patronus does not mean much, etc, etc.

JMO,

Alla





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