ChapDisc: DH 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore

[nikkalmati]

No: HPFGUIDX 182684

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  "nikkalmati" <puduhepa98@> wrote:
> >
> > ---  "Steve" <bboyminn@> wrote:
> > >    snip
> > >On some occasions human will sacrifices The Few to save The
> > >Many, but on other occasion, quite illogically, humans will
> > >sacrifice The Many to save The Few.
> > 
> > >This was especially impressed on me when Aberforth and Harry
> > >argue in 'Deathly Hallows' just before Harry and friends
> > >enter Hogwarts castle. Harry in essence says that some causes
> > >are so great and so true, and the need so real that indeed
> > >the few must be willing to sacrifice themselves for the good,
> > >or if you will the greater good, of the many.
> > 
>  >Nikkalmati
> > 
> > The problem I am struggling with here is that Albus appears 
> > to be willing to sacrifice other people for the good of the 
> > many.  This is part of Aberforth's problem with his brother.
> > He is asking Harry if he really knows what he is getting into.
> > Of course, he doesn't - Albus never told him.  Albus knew 
> > Harry would be willing to go forward at any cost, but was 
> > that fair?  Albus' MO is to trap you into a committment and 
> > then shame you into going on when you finally see the 
> > handwriting on the wall.  Not my idea of the highest moral 
> > standard.  
> > 
> > >Nikkalmati
> >
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Yes, but how many men did General Eisenhower send to their
> deaths? How many men did General MacArthur sent to their
> deaths? How many of those men didn't want to go, but went
> anyway out of duty and loyalty? And how many of the deadly
> operation were brutal strategic error in judgment? 
> 
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Nikkalmati
 
What DD has done to several people (Harry, Snape, Dung and probably 
others) was more like the Bay of Pigs, invasion where the US 
Government told the Cuban mercenaries they would have US aircover and 
then changed their minds after the invasion started, or the Gulf of 
Tonkin supposed attack on US warships by the North Vietnamese which, 
I guess, never happened the way it was reported. Somebody must have 
thought those decisions were "for the greater good."

Nikkalmati