CHAPDISC: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Ch. 19: The Silver Doe

Hagrid aussie_lol at yahoo.com.au
Wed Apr 30 12:47:44 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182739

> Questions
>  
> 1.  Phineas Nigellus learns ...about Harry's 
> location, ...while the beaded bag is 
> open.  Has Phineas really been hanging out in that cramped bag all 
> this time?  Why is he willing to do this?

Aussie:
I think Phineas also proudly said at Hogwarts after the battle that 
Syltherins also joined in the victory. Helping to get the Sword to 
Harry's location was something he could be proud of.
Snape must have asked him to. Phineas would have reported earlier 
meetings with Harry & co. to the present headmaster.

>  
> 2.  What did you think initially of the appearance of the silver 
> doe?  Did you perceive clues (either on initial reading or 
rereading) 
> pointing to the identity of the doe?  Was it intended, in your 
view, 
> as misdirection?  Was it effective?  Does it seem odd that Harry 
did 
> not attempt to identify the doe?

aussie:
Originally, I thought it was from someone that knew the maunderers' 
alter-egos, and was trying to draw Harry out.
That would mean Peter, Lupin or Snape.

> 3.  How long do you think Snape stayed behind the trees to watch?  
> Did he leave when the sword was recovered, or might he have seen 
the 
> destruction of the locket?  How might Snape have interpreted this 
> action, given that he was unaware of the nature of the Trio's 
mission?

aussie:
It seems obvious seeing Snape's pensive, that Dumbledore held back 
information from Snape ... which, I think, was the Horcruxes.
Snape could very well still turn ESE!, and vital information on how 
to destroy Voldemort may have offered the DE/OOTP/DADA teacher too 
much temptation.
He left once he saw Pon was able to help Harry out.

> 4.  The sword at the bottom of the lake is reminiscent of 
Arthurian 
> legend.  JKR is known for borrowing the stuff of legends and 
> reworking those legends for her own purposes.  Is that what 
happened 
> here?  Is Harry at all comparable to King Arthur?  If so, how?  
And 
> what about Ron's Arthurian connections, since it was Ron who 
> succeeded in retrieving the sword of Gryffindor?

Aussie:
Hmm, wasn't it originally Arthur's father that got the sword from 
the lake? Arther pulled the sword from the stone.
But Arther was raised in a lowly household, not knowing his true 
identity nad destiny until he laid hands on the sword.
"Weasley is our King"

> 5.  Why did it have to be Ron who destroyed the Horcrux?  Wouldn't 
> Harry have been able to destroy it just as effectively?  

aussie:
Voldemort was connected with Harry. If Harry's emotions were tested 
by the Horcrux, voldemort may have become aware of the quest Harry 
was on earlier and the cup and tiarra would have been impossible to 
touch.

> 8.  What, if anything, do you make of the fact that the sword of 
> Gryffindor was used only to destroy Horcruxes with a significant 
> Slytherin connection (the locket, the ring and Nagini)?  

aussie:
I didn't notice that. Nice insight.
Was it the Gryffindor/Slytherin feud revived?
  

> 11.  This chapter is outwardly about Ron, but in retrospect the 
> subtext is all Snape.  Is there a connection between these two 
> characters?  How are they alike.  To what extent are their 
> differences the result of circumstances rather than character?

aussie:
Please don't tell us you picked this chapter to adore Snape that 
little bit more.
This actually was the successful destruction of the dreaded horcrux. 
They prove vulnerable, even to those that don't have Dumbledore like 
powers. 





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