CHAPDISC: DH25, Shell Cottage

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 10 19:27:52 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184029

Aussie:
> 4) There is a saying, "History was written by the winners". The
Daily Prophet has been doing it in most of the books. So are wizards
> the "lesser evil" compared to the "not fluffy bunnies", or just as
> bad, or worse?

Pippin:
There's no way to tell. We don't meet any goblin heroes, but we don't
meet any goblin villains either. It's not fair to judge all goblins by
Griphook. <BIIG SNIP>

Alla:

I will ask the same question as I used to ask those readers who were 
telling me that it is so very unfair to judge the House Slytherin by 
Draco Malfoy. Why not?

I mean of course it is unfair to do so in RL – to judge any entity of 
people by one representative, I know it and get it. But in the book? 
I think it is a very fair assumption to make that author does want me 
to judge all Slytherins of younger generation by Draco Malfoy being 
their typical representative, since we see no Slytherins who are 
better than him lurking in the background, no?

And since we have not seen it by the time book ended and none of 
those just name character showed up and demonstrated their great 
qualities, I believe I was correct in judging Slytherin house not 
more and no less than I would judge Draco Malfoy. She showed us older 
Slytherins doing much better things, true, but within the students? 
Who? 

Anyways, back to goblins. Why again it is unfair to judge all Goblins 
by Griphook? Because maybe there are better Goblins than him? Of 
course, maybe and one is entirely within one's right to make such 
assumption, it is just an assumption I refuse to make. I need more 
evidence for that.

I do not think that Griphook is an evil impersonated of course; I 
just think that he is a greedy selfish liar, who fully planned to 
take advantage of Harry from the very beginning and with his 
storyline Goblins lost all appeal to me, I have none left whatsoever.

Not that Harry behaved any better of course IMO.


Pippin:
This bargain was one of the most cowardly things Harry ever did IMO--
indeed one could say it's the *only* cowardly thing Harry ever did.
IMO, it's the proof that Harry can be cowardly as the crucio is the
proof that he can be cruel.

<SNIP>

Alla:

Yes agreed. 

JMO,

Alla






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