Goblins, British school children and sterotypes ( was, Re: Muggle Parents and

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 184077

> Pippin:
> See, this is where there is a disconnect for me, where  you imagine
> yourself in the Potterverse, but aren't concerned that your views
> might contribute to prejudice there, even though you admit they 
might
> be wrong. 

Alla:

Okay,  first of  I do not **want** to live in Potterverse , I would 
love to visit since there are characters that I adore, I would hope 
that Harry's generation will improve things, but as it stood at the 
end of the series, thanks but no thanks.

I placed myself in the hypothetical with Goblins as just that pure 
hypothetical.

And say I would want to imagine myself living in Potterverse, that 
would mean I would have to look at it as real place, no? Then of 
course I will not be thinking that  by one representative we can 
judge the whole race, I will be absolutely sure  to get to know more 
about Goblins before I judge them.

And again, I admit that they are wrong? We are talking about two 
different possibilities – what writer was trying to achieve and what 
we can think of Goblins as if they were real beings. If Goblins 
are "real" beings, sure, I would not think of all of them as I think 
of Griphook, if I am strictly looking at them as construct from the 
book, um, no I do not admit that my views are wrong. I cannot read 
JKR's mind, so of course you can be right, but since  I  did not see 
another Goblin doing something differently from what Griphook did, 
then I can say that my views are wrong **only** in hypothetical way.

 Pippin:
> Not only that, in order to "stay away from them" you would have to 
not
> use wizard money, since it's all made by goblins. So, IMO, unless 
you
> modified your views, you'd have to behave in ways that would 
probably
> make most wizards view you as an anti-goblin fanatic. 

Alla:

"Antigoblin fanatic"?. But no by staying away from Goblins I meant 
refraining from **buying** staff from them. Last time I checked, 
wizards did not buy money from Goblins, no?

I reread the post and realized that I still sound confusing. SO to 
make a long story short - I would definitely stay away from Goblins 
if I look at them from outside of the story. It is my belief that in 
Griphook JKR modeled the views of your average Goblin and as I said 
before I think he is a greedy and selfish liar.

If I would appear in the "real Potterverse" ( boy sounds absurd, but 
whatever), of course I would make sure that I get to know more 
Goblins before I judge them.