CHAPDISC: DH27, The Final Hiding Place

Jen Reese stevejjen at earthlink.net
Fri Aug 22 15:51:56 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184149

Chapter question:
> 3)  Harry's vision of Voldemort killing everyone within reach at 
> Malfoy Manor is a first-hand view of Voldemort using the Elder
> wand.  Do you believe Voldemort exhibits extraordinary magical 
> power in this  scene or were his powers about what you expected he
> was capable of  regardless of the wand?   Any thoughts on Bellatrix
> and Lucius '[throwing] others behind them in their race for the 
> door'? 
 
> Pippin:
> "[G]reen light erupted through the room" sounds enough like "green
> light filled the cramped hallway" (from  chapter 17) that it could
> be just a more vivid description of the same phenomenon, ie, 
> reflected light from an Avada Kedavra curse. 
> 
> But  the reaction of the watching wizards gives the lie to that. Why
> did they scatter and flee when  only the goblin had been killed,
> before Voldemort raised his wand to strike again? 
<snip>
> There must have been  something about the eruption of green light
> that made them realize that they were all meant to die, not just
> the bearer of bad news.  If green light not only struck the goblin
> but literally "erupted" throughout the room, that might account for 
> it. 
> 
> Without the full power of the Elder Wand, the curse might touch but
> not kill the watching DE's, just as it would later fail to kill 
> Harry in the forest. As Fake!Moody told us in GoF, the Avada 
> Kedavra curse needs a fair amount of magical power behind it. 


Jen: I thought of how powerful the AK toward Harry was that it 
destroyed the Potter house.  It wasn't the love sacrifice that made 
the magic powerful; it was LV's power rebounding against him & 
everything around him.  So what occurred at Malfoy Manor didn't show 
me Voldemort had more power with the Elder wand than he'd shown 
previously. He was enraged & that fueled his powerful AK, but the 
wand didn't do anything extraordinary imo. 

This is likely the moment Voldemort determined the Elder wand wasn't 
working any better than his old wand, giving rise to his belief that 
Snape must be the true master.  






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