War veterans and JKR's interviews WAS :Re: CHAPDISC: 34, The Forest Again.

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 1 04:28:31 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 185053

> Pippin:
> She *did* write that book. That's what the Marauder generation is 
all
> about. It's part of the reason they had to die, IMO -- to show that
> they had to live with the scars of war to the  end.
<SNIP>
> Nineteen years later, JKR shows us a Harry who is reasonably happy
> with his life, but if we want to know how he got there, we have to
> look at Pettigrew, Snape and Sirius, each of whom remained frozen  
in
> a different stage of recovery: denial, bargaining or anger. Only 
Lupin
> got to move on to acceptance from despair. 


Alla:

Well, see I completely agree with you Pippin here, I think JKR showed 
brilliantly the war traumas in Marauders' generation and I think she 
definitely wrote this book.

However, I have to be honest. I who used to love love love JKR's 
interviews am approaching the stage where I will join the crowd who 
will desperately wish that the woman would just keep her mouth shut.

Again, please do not get me wrong, I do not fault her or anything. It 
is just a cry of despair from the reader to other readers, because I 
love to analyse her work so much and her interviews for me start to 
complicate the matters **so so so much* I totally understand how hard 
it was for her for more than a decade to live with her work and not 
being able to share her thoughts, her intentions with the readers in 
order to protect the plot and not spoil it for us.

I get it, really. However, when she says stuff like that, I cannot 
help but say, oh really?

What Shelly said, I mean, any slightest sign in the epilogue that all 
those war hurts are still with Harry and his friends? Because I 
surely did not see them.

I mean, I will never doubt that Harry and his friends ARE war 
veterans and I mean, different people cope differently, so I am sure 
there are people who adjust well without help and are less touched by 
war than others. However from my limited knowledge of the subject it 
is impossible to escape the war **absolutely unscarred**, so how 
about just saying that I wanted to give Harry a happy ending?

And it is not like she did not mention those nightmares Harry 
suffered after Cedric's death, etc, so he certainly had trauma along 
the way, she just did not want him to be traumatised at the end, 
which is fine, but why say that stuff about war veterans?

It is the same thing as with Dumbledore, her Dumbledore works 
perfectly for me, except when I start to think about that d*mn 
epitome of goodness quote.


Then she goes on to say oh yes, Dumbledore was Makiavellian and Harry 
was nothing but a weapon for him, which is again, to me is totally in 
line with canon and then she goes on to say that we should love him 
as a good man, etc. Um, sorry JKR, from my reading of the parts of 
the Prince, I really do not find the man who wrote it to be very 
admirable. I do not think the man for whom Harry was a weapon 
deserves my love and admiration, so, yeah, I will still most likely 
read your interviews, but I will try to start not to or at least 
limit myself.


Pippin:
> One of the things JKR does with her world is remind us that we'd be
> leaving more than decent dental care behind if we had to live in the
> pseudo-medieval society so beloved of  heroic fantasy sagas. There
> simply is no mental health counseling as we know it in the WW.
> 
> They don't even know that they need it. 
> <SNIP>

Alla:

Very true.







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