CHAPDISC: 34, The Forest Again - Hagrid

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No: HPFGUIDX 185084

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "zanooda2" <zanooda2 at ...> 
wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jerri&Dan Chase" <danjerri@>
> wrote:
> 
> > I know, that JKR wanted Hagrid alive and present to carry 
> > Harry's "dead" body out of the forest.  But why didn't the 
> > spiders kill him?  And, if they didn't, why didn't the death 
> > eaters?  
> 
> 
> zanooda wrote
> 
> Maybe LV didn't want Hagrid dead. Hagrid is awesome in battle, and 
if
> under Imperius curse, for example, he could be quite an asset :-). 
Or
> maybe LV kept Hagrid alive to use him as a hostage, as someone very
> close to Harry.
>
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DA Jones

Giants according to canon are very hard to kill or harm via magic. 
Would one AK have been enought to do it? If it hadn't been, 
Voldemort would have risked embarassing himself. Besides, who says 
it wasn't in his plans to do so? 

Bad guys, not just in fiction - but often in real life, love to 
humiliate their victims first. Look at what the Nazi's did, they 
routinely humiliated the Jews before gassing them. Terrorists often 
do similar things. Even bullys on the playground will torture with 
taunts, before torturing with fists. 

The power hungry feed off the wimpers of the powerless, and there 
are few wimpers if you just kill. Especially with the AK. It's 
painless.  

Also, maybe he wanted Hagrid alive, as a hostage, but not to control 
not just Harry, but also Hagrid's brother? You can even imagine he 
did so, to have leverage against Madam Maxine, just in case she got 
word and tried to come to the aid of Hogwarts. 

BTW way, where was Madame Maxine? Didn't you expect to see her and a 
few students from B- Academy in the final battle. Oh, well I guess 
JKR couldn't fit everything.  

In addition, Hagrid is still a Hogwarts teacher (or was until 
recently) even under Snape and Voldemort is respectful of Hogwarts. 
Also, it almost seems as if Hagrid is an old 'hogwarts friend' and 
to kill him, would be to kill Hogwarts and Hogwarts is as precious 
to Tom as it is to Harry. In fact, his memories of it, are his 
only 'precious' thing.  

Also, Voldemort to me seems to be actually trying to keep the 
casualties at Hogwarts down. For its clear from the students' 
reactions, and the fact that a year after taking over the ministry 
that there is still organized resistence, that killing everyone 
would be a phyrrhic victory. He isn't even able to openly rule, but 
must hide behind DE ministry stooges. 

He seems to be vaguely aware that if he kills Harry and many other's 
besides, then he risks turning the dead into Martyrs.

DA Jones