CHAPDISC: DH35, KING'S CROSS
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Chapter Discussion: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter
35, KING CROSS
Harry wakes up in a strange place. At first he does not understand
what is happening to him, then slowly he realizes that he must exist
and that he must be more than a thought because he is definitely
lying down on some sort of surface. His senses are slowly awakening,
he is not sure whether he is in that place by himself or not. Harry
also realizes that he is naked and it does not bother him at all. He
realizes that he has eyes because he can see. Harry also realizes
that he does not need glasses. Then Harry hears pitiful noises. Harry
feels as if he encountered something shameful and for the first time
wishes that he were clothed. As soon as wish forms in his head, robes
appear. Harry's surroundings seem to invent themselves right in front
of his eyes: a glass roof in the sunlight, and a wall. Harry wonders
if he is in some sort of strange room of requirement. Then Harry sees
something that looks like a strange baby with flayed skin under a
table, which is the source of the noises. Harry is afraid of the
creature; he knows that he ought to comfort him, but it repulses him.
Dumbledore appears, smiling, his hand fully healed. His first words
to Harry are that he cannot help the creature. Then Dumbledore
cheerfully greets Harry, calls him a wonderful boy, a brave man and
leads him to two seats that Harry had not previously noticed.
Harry asks whether Dumbledore is dead and gets affirmative answer. He
gets a negative answer to the question of whether he is dead. With
Dumbledore's help, Harry realizes that letting Voldemort kill him
made all the difference in the matter of Harry's survival.
Harry and Dumbledore have a long conversation where all the mysteries
of the series are touched on in one way or another, in ways readers
may find satisfying to various degrees.
We learn that Albus guessed that Harry would live and is delighted
that he was right. We learn that Harry was a Horcrux that Lord
Voldemort never meant to make, and that when Harry let Voldemort kill
him, that piece of Voldemort's soul died, and now Harry's soul is
clean and completely his own.
Albus reveals his entire tragic family history. We learn that after
three muggle boys attacked her, Ariana became very ill and was having
uncontrollable outbursts of magic when she was upset. We hear that
Dumbledore's father was put in Azkaban for going after those muggle
boys and that Kendra, Dumbledore's mother, moved the family to
another town to care for Ariana away from prying eyes. A few years
later, Kendra died accidentally, as a result of an outburst of
Ariana's. This forced Dumbledore to come back from his studies to
care for his younger brother and sister. Per his own admission
Dumbledore resented that he must take time away from his studies and
care for his siblings and that his brilliance may suffer.
When Grindelwald became one of his neighbors Dumbledore, infatuated
with his brilliance, plotted with him to being about Wizard
domination over Muggles, for "the Greater Good". Albus and
Grindelwald planned a trip together to seek the Hallows, until
Aberforth confronted them with questions about how Albus is planning
to manage the care of his ill sister. This confrontation became a
duel between the three of them, and Ariana was caught in the
crossfire, so to speak, and ended up dead. Grindelwald fled and Albus
was left to bury his sister and carry his guilt, shame, and grief
forever. Apparently he waited several years to confront Grindelwald
and defeat him.
The Hallows and Elder Wand are discussed during this conversation as
well. Albus apologizes for sending Harry on a wild goose chase after
Hallows, as he had feared Harry might, like him, succumb to their
allure. Albus praises Harry as a person who is more worthy than him
and worthy to unite the Hallows.
Albus also attempts to explain his plans regarding the Elder Wand. He
does not succeed for this reader.
Harry must now decide whether he should board the train and go on or
go back and make sure Voldemort is defeated. He decides to go back.
The end
1. How many nods to Greek philosophers you can find in this
chapter?
2. Is the action in this chapter happens in Harry's head or some
other place?
Explain why or why not.
3. Where do you think Dumbledore spends his days now?
4. The theme of the hero given a choice whether to rest or to go
back and possibly be hurt more or prevail over the enemy is fairly
common in the fantasy genre. When Harry makes his decision to go back
did you feel at any time that he is going back to die for real now?
Explain why or why not.
5. "Of house elves and children's tales, of love, loyalty and
innocence, Voldemort knows and understands nothing. Nothing. That
they all have a power beyond his own, a power beyond the reach of any
magic, is a truth he had never grasped". I think that this quote
pretty much sums up one of the major themes in the series. Do you
agree or disagree? Explain why or why not.
6. List discussed the injured baby under the table extensively
in the past, but if you want to please discuss some more here.
7. Can somebody explain to me one more time what was
Dumbledore's rationale in sending Harry on Hallows Quest?
8. "If you planned your death with Snape, you meant him to end
up with the Elder Wand, didn't you?
"I admit that was my intention," said Dumbledore, "but it did not
work as I intended, did it?
"No," said Harry, That bit didn't work out"
What do you think Harry meant by his question? What do you think
Albus' actual plan was?
9. Why do you think chapter was named "King's cross"?
10. Please add your own question here.
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