CoS chapters 6-10, post DH look

Bex kaleeyj at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 03:43:25 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 181186


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Zara" <zgirnius at ...> wrote:
>
> > CoS:
> > "If we hadn't married Muggles we'd've died out" - p.116
> >
<SNIP>
> zgirnius:
> I believe he said what he meant. Muggleborns occur when two Muggles
> carrying genes for magic but not expressing them, genes they
> inherited from magical ancestors, pass those genes on to their kids
> in a way that causes them to be expressed. They would thus result
> from Muggle/wizard relationships, at some point in the past. (Or
> Squib/Muggle). Nor are Muggle/Wizard relationships THAT rare in
> canon: the Snapes, Finnegans, and Riddles were such married couples
> (and if we include website backstory, so was the relationship that
> produced Dean Thomas).

Bex:
Ron is referring to pure-blooded wizards (or wizards in general), and
he is commenting on the notion of 'dirty blood.' So I think he means
what
he says here, too.


> > Alla:
> > Wait a second. It seems to me that Hagrid can keep secrets very
> > well when he chooses to here.

> zgirnius:
> I think it is a little easier to keep one's own secret.
>
Bex:
We see that a lot with Hagrid. He tends to guard his own secrets a bit
more
closely - whether or not the slips of the tongue in PS/SS were
intentional,
they weren't his secrets. And this isn't some top secret mission for DD
either.
In OotP, Hagrid is again on a top secret mission, and it takes only a
little ego
stroking to get him to spill everything.


> >  CoS:
> > Dumbledore was giving Harry a searching look. His twinkling light
> > blue gaze made Harry feel as though he were being X-rayed.
> >
> > Innocent till proven guilty, Severus," he said firmly" - p.144
>
> > Alla:
> > No, really? And here I thought you already read that he is innocent
> > Albus.
>
> zgirnius:
> I think both Severus and Albus were picking up that Harry was not
> telling them the whole truth here. So I don't think Albus was
> reading 'innocence' any more than Severus was. (I see no indication
> Severus believed Harry had Petrified the cat and hung it up, I think
> he suspected Harry of other, unknown misdeeds he was hoping to get to
> the bottom of). At one point Albus asks Harry if there is anything he
> wants Harrry to tell him - which I think shows he is picking up the
> same vibe as Severus.
>
>
> > CoS:
> > "Just because a wizard doesn't use Dark Magic doesn't mean he can't
> > Miss Pennyfeather," snapped Professor Binns." I repeat, if the
> likes
> > of Dumbledore-" - p.152
>
> > Alla:
> > Oh, and Miss Pennyfeather? Too funny that.
>
> zgirnius:
> What, you approve of teachers mocking their students in class?! ;)
>
> > Alla:
> > "But, Albus... surely... who?"
> > "The question is not who," said Dumbledore, his eyes on
> Collin. "The
> > question is, how..." - p.181
> >
> > Alla:
> > This quote was underlined in my copy of CoS from past reading, that
> > means that I may have asked this question already, but I am still
> > unsure of answer.
> >
> > So Dumbledore KNEW who opened the chamber? Oy.
>
> zgirnius:
> Surely that was not very helpful knowledge? A wizard who exists only
> in the form of vapor/spirit/whatever you want to call it, and is
> believed to be hanging about Albania, is the culprit. Yes, that
> explains everything! <g>

Bex:
I think DD knew from the very beginning that Riddle opened the
Chamber - he never could prove it of course. But the idea of encasing
a piece of soul in a diary as a memory probably never crossed his mind.

I noticed that all of the teachers (I think) did not appreciate
Gilderoy's
help - my guess is it took all of about 30 seconds or so before they
decided he was bluffing at best.

And I thought the KwikSpell course was wicked genius on Jo's part.
Do you suppose Filch tried it?

In chapter 10, we see just how blinded Hermione is by her crush on
Gilderoy. She is willing to write off Gilderoy de-boning Harry's arm
as a "mistake." Seems that if he wrote all of those books, and he
obliviated all of those people, he might have picked up at least
*one* basic splinting spell.

Bex






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