Snape's Culpability in the Prank (WAS: James and Sirius as Bullies)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 181251

> Pippin:
> 
> Alla gave the example of leaving your loaded gun on a table. Maybe
> things are different elsewhere, but in California, if a minor child
> (anyone under the age of eighteen) picks up that gun and death or 
> injury results, you (the gun owner) committed a felony. It doesn't
> matter whether the child should have known better or whether you
> didn't mean for anything bad to happen. 
> 
> http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/tips.php#owners%20responsiblities


Alla:

Well, that's too bad if you ask my NOT legal opinion :), I wish the 
child would have been hold liable as well if he was old enough, at 
least 15 0r 16 , but in any event I like Mike's analogy so much 
better, heheh. After all  what was revealed was indeed information 
and Sirius could not even know for sure what Snape would do. 
Although he probably suspected, I think.




> Pippin:
>  Teenagers don't have the impulse control that adults have. It has 
nothing 
> to do with how smart they are. I'm sure both Snape and Sirius 
could have
> told you what might happen to a lone wizard who encountered a
> werewolf. But that doesn't mean they would relate the information 
to
> what they were doing. <SNIP>


Alla:

And as I said before I do NOT think that going there was some sort 
of unusual thing for teenager to do, for teenager Snape I mean.

I am saying that it is his fault only when it is somehow becomes all 
Sirius' fault. When Sirius somehow MADE him do it, you know?

And that I see no proof in canon, I think the only one who MADE him 
do it was Snape.

Boy was I expecting that at least some sort of bait will be shown in 
canon. I was thinking that he would tell Snape that Lily is in grave 
danger or something among other multiple scenarios.

If something like that would have been revealed, oh yeah, I would 
not hold Snape accountable for much. He would be rushing to save his 
lady and Sirius would be supreme bastard, love him as I am.

But nothing like that was revealed. Sirius told him how to go to, 
which in my book makes him supreme bastard towards Remus AND Snape 
knew or suspected ( depending on where you stand) that Remus is a 
werewolf and went anyways.

I say, Snape has nobody to blame but himself, which of course still 
make Sirius' liable, but in my book NOT for MAKING him go there, but 
for playing fast and loose with friend's life or death secret and 
MAYBE tempting Snape. Maybe...


I understand why poor Remus did not want to loose a friend and 
forgave Sirius, I do. But I do not know if I would have. And this is 
from someone who loves Sirius' character so much better, always did 
and this feeling only increased after book 7 and Remus got on my 
last nerve in book 7.


This was a stupid thing to do on Sirius' behalf, for sure, stupid, 
reckless and dangerous, but NOBODY forced Snape to act upon this 
information.

JMO,

Alla