Snape's Culpability in the Prank (WAS: James and Sirius as Bullies)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 181294

> Carol, wondering where all this blame the victim sentiment is coming
> from and hoping it's not just affection for Sirius Black or loathing
> for Snape
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Alla:

Can we not assume motives, please? It is not like 
affection for Sirius Black and loathing for Severus Snape is my 
deeply hidden secret (show of hands who does not know it), which 
lies underneath my argument. Does it have anything to do with the 
good faith belief that I think Severus Snape and Severus Snape only 
is to blame for going to the tunnel? Um, nothing, zero, nada. Just as 
I believe that Sirius Black should have keep his mouth shut and if I 
were Remus Lupin, I would never want to be his friend ever again.

I hate Kreacher with passion; I am still intelligent enough to see 
and agree that he was mistreated by Sirius, while continue to hate 
him of course.

And if I in good faith believed that Sirius **made it possible for 
Snape to do it** I would have said so, while still loving Sirius' 
character and deeply loathing Snape's.

Just as I believe that Sirius' behaved as bastard towards Remus' and 
as I said upthread I still adore Sirius and have very little 
affection left towards Remus after book 7.

So to answer where all this blame the victim sentiment comes from – 
that would be from the  belief that "victim" was spying on what was 
happening in the Shack for the longest time, that "victim" pretty 
much KNEW what was in there ( my opinion of course), that "victim" 
went anyways of his own volition.

That in my book makes Snape NOT a victim, but a very willing 
participant. Which again of course does not preclude Sirius' 
responsibility, which to me lies in telling a secret that he was not 
supposed to tell and maybe wanting to scare Snape IF Snape will go.


Alla,

who was loving this round of Prank discussion.