CoS chapters 17-18 post DH look

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 5 04:09:15 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 181307

"If I say it myself Harry, I've always  been able to charm the 
people I needed" - p.310

Alla:

Fast forward to HBP, huh? Charming boy indeed :(


"Of course, she didn't know what she was doing at first" - p.310

Alla:

At first?

"On the other hand, Tom Riddle, poor but brilliant, parentless but 
so brave, school prefect , model student... on the other hand, big 
blundering Hagrid, in trouble every other week, trying to raise 
werewolf cubs under his bed, sneaking off to the Forbidden Forest to 
wrestle trolls ... but I admit even I was surprised how well plan 
worked" - p.311-312


Alla:


I think this is one of the scariest dear Tommy moments for me. The 
shameless manipulation of everything that may cause pity for him.

Another thing - JKR told us in the interview that Tommy flat out 
lied here - no werewolf cubs for Hagrid, alas.

Any possible instances of Lordy lying later in the books, besides 
whether Slytherins joined him or not?


"I, keep the name of a foul common Muggle, who abandoned me even 
before I was born, just because he found out his wife was a witch?" -
 p.314


Alla:

Not to start another Tom Riddle and Merope argument, but there are 
not that many places in the books where I remember well my reaction 
after first read. I do remember this one. I certainly felt that his 
daddy contributed to poor Tommy growing up as he did. I mean, not 
that I felt sympathy for Tommy dearest, but felt that his dad was 
not an honorable man.

Boy this is all changed so drastically for me came HBP. I am still 
struggling hard to find even a little compassion for Merope, I mean 
maybe I have a little bit, but certainly not much, but I feel so bad 
for poor man whom she tricked, raped and took away his hopes and 
desires for happy marriage. All my opinion obviously and my opinion 
only.


"Twice - in your past, in my future - we have met" - p.316

Alla:

I know I am missing something obvious, but how does he know about 
second time again? Do all soul pieces know what the other one had 
been doing? I mean he says Ginny told him all about Harry, but Ginny 
does not really know what happened in PS/SS, no?


"What interests me most," said Dumbledore gently,"is how Lord 
Voldemort managed to enchant Ginny, when my sources tell me that he 
is currently in hiding in the forests of Albania" - p.328


Alla:

So DD does not know about horcruxes yet after all or does he?


See you in Prisoner of Azkaban guys :-)








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