[HPforGrownups] James again

[Liz P]

No: HPFGUIDX 181365

Julie:
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How hard would it have been for JKR to give us one moment of James as an adult, protecting someone as an Order member, sharing affection with Harry and Lily, having a thoughtful adult conversation withsomeone, expressing his adult views or feelings--anything that would have given us an opportunity to
know the real James, and to make a connection with him?

It's unfortunate (IMO) that JKR neglected to do this, and we are left with trying to understand? James vianothing but his teenage actions and heresay. It leaves him pretty much a cipher, a cardboard cutout.Thus I can't say I dislke James, but I can't say I? like him either, since he remains a nonentity to me.

Liz:
How hard is right. I have never liked James. I've tried. I've so tried. All the comments that Harry is so like his father, I've come to believe only in "trouble making" areas. His die hard loyalty to his friends, that type of thing. 

In my eyes, never has James been shown in a positive light. He's regaled by many, we're led to believe oh that James Potter! How great he was. Where? When? Sure his final sacrifice, he was part of the Order, but never are we shown, even hinted, that there is more to him.

I don't know why Lily fell in love with him. Harry has a conversation with Sirius and Lupin in OOTP where he even asks. Their answers aren't that great.