Blowing his cover
Zara
zgirnius at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 10 01:58:50 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 181425
> CJ:
> However, I'm not sure it's consonant with Harry's past actions.
He's got
> a track record with respect to all three of the UCs, having used
> successfully the Cruciatus and the Imperius and attempted the AK.
zgirnius:
Harry never attempted the AK. I don't think he ever would.
He grabs for Crucio when he is furious (at Bella when she kills
Sirius, at Snape when he kills Dumbledore, and at Amycus Carrow at
Hogwarts, the first and only time he succeeds with that curse, which
I really don't believe was just about spitting at Minerva - it was
all the revelations: his torture of students, and his intention to
sicc Voldemort on innicent students to cover up his own mistake). You
may not like the 'war excuse', but it is certainly true that each
time Harry does use the spell, he is experiencing circumstances which
could only be present in a war-type situation. It is also pretty
clear that from a legal standpoint, the Wizard culture makes this
distinction too - why else would Aurors be permitted to use
Unforgivables in the first war?
I would not myself call this an excuse, as I do not believe it is
supposed to excuse Harry's actions, which are on the wrong side of
neutral. I do think it is supposed to *explain* them and make them
understandable to readers. Each time Harry is tempted to use Crucio,
he has just witnessed the aftermath of serious crimes against people
he cares about, a state of mind in which I personally would *hope*
people would still act according tpo their better natures, but one in
which I can *understand* that they do not.
Harry used the Imperius curse when his plans to steal Voldemort's
Horcrux from Gringotts went wrong. I'm pretty sure that breaking into
Gringotts and stealing a valuable artifact from one of its vaults is
also illegal. This has never bothered me, and nor did the means Harry
used to commit this 'crime'.
> CJ:
> One might, perhaps, argue that his death experience changed Harry,
but
> we just don't see enough of Post-Death!Harry to make that more than
a
> theoretical conjecture.
zgirnius:
I think seeing Snape's memories, the experience of walking to his
death, talking to Dumbledore, and coming back were all the final bit
of growing up for Harry, and this had something to do with it. I
found Harry's patience, waiting for the right moment to reveal
himself, and then his calm in the face of Voldemort in their final
conversation, pretty convincing evidence of his new maturity. His
choice of spell was just part of that.
But even before this point, Harry has often chosen less rather than
more harmful spells - hence Expelliarmus already being his signature
spell. He has a temper, and when it gets the better of him, he makes
bad choices, is what I walked away with from his use of Crucio.
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