Love Sacrifice / How Alchemy Didn't Work

[Goddlefrood]

No: HPFGUIDX 181538

> > Pippin:
> > Although love did not lead to Lord Voldemort's demise, it
> > did lead to Harry's survival and the survival of a great 
> > many other people. 
<SNIP>
> > IMO, it would not be much of a message of love and forgiveness
> > if love led to anyone's demise, even Voldemort's. 
> <SNIP>

Goddlefrood:

That's right, it wouldn't, hence alchemy doesn't work. Glad we 
agree there.

I have a somewhat different view on Lily's sacrifice. Yes, she 
did sacrifice herself for Harry; however, without Snape's request 
to spare Lily's life that sacrifice would have been meaningless. 
The agreement LV gave to SS not to kill Lily came back to bite 
him, IOW. So, although perhaps nauseous, Snape's love saved Harry 
as much as did Lily's IMHO.

> Bex:
> Granted, luck played a pretty good role too. Without some good 
> luck, Harry would have been toast years ago.

Goddlefrood:

Dare I say, a large slice of it?

> Bex:
> I think she may have borrowed some general imagery from the
> science of alchemy, but I don't think she was *trying* to 
> imitate the three stages of alchemy. 

Goddlefrood:

Nor did I, which partially led to the original post.

> Bex:
> I like Hagrid.

Goddlefrood:

The real reason - I had to convince myself that Hagrid wouldn't 
die pre-DH, and it worked.