Wand Lore / Luna / Alchemy

[Carol]

No: HPFGUIDX 181681

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_svirn" <a_svirn at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67@> wrote:
> >
> > a_svirn wrote:
> (And he
> > did try to kill Snape in the aftermath of Dumbledore's murder.) 
> <snip>
> > 
> > Carol responds:
> > No, he didn't attempt to kill Snape. He twice attempted to Crucio 
> him
> > and Snape defected the Cruciatus Curse both times. <snip> 
> 
> In addition to two Crucios, Harry attempts to cast two Stunning
> > spells, Incarcerus (the binding curse), Impedimenta, Sectumsempra,
> > Levicorpus, the last of which Snape evidently detects through
> > Legilimency, as it's a nonverbal spell.
> 
> a_svirn:
> Precisely so. Sectumsempra. It is also a deadly curse, and much more 
> painful than AK. Granted, unlike AK it can be reversed, but Harry 
> could not do it even if he wanted to. Which he didn't.
> 
> "Harry uttered an inarticulate yell of rage: In that instant, he 
cared not whether he lived or died. Pushing himself to his feet 
again, he staggered blindly toward Snape, the man he now hated as 
> much as he hated Voldemort himself - 
> "Sectum - "
> Snape flicked his wand and the curse was repelled yet again; but 
Harry was mere feet away now and he could see Snape's face clearly at
last: He was no longer sneering or jeering; the blazing flames showed
a face full of rage."

Carol again:

If Harry had wanted to kill Snape, he'd have used the Killing Curse.
That's what it's for. And he certainly wasn't hesitating to use it
because it was an Unforgiveable since he tried twice to Crucio Snape
(and had already used it with slightly more success on Bella). He was
trying to hurt and punish Snape, to make him suffer and bleed, as he
had done with Draco. "Inarticulate yell of rage" pretty much gives
away his feelings and intentions. I'd say. And note that Harry doesn't
care whether he, Harry, lives or dies. Nothing about killing or trying
to kill his opponent. (Snape's rage is not at Harry's use of his own
curse or at the attempt to injure him severely or to use Dark Magic;
it's at being called "coward.")

But my point was that Snape defeated Harry handily. Snape is in no
danger from Harry, but had Snape really been the murdering Death Eater
Harry thought he has, Harry would not have been rescued from Amycus's
Crucio. He'd have been tortured and taken to Voldemort. He's lucky,
very lucky, that Snape is on his side.

Carol, who thinks that Harry's powers are not fully developed at this
point and that his success throughout the books, whether it's at
Godric's Hollow or in the TWT or against Voldemort in DH, is mostly a
matter of luck