Tom Riddle and the RoR - when

[talamariam]

No: HPFGUIDX 181778

Carol wrote:
>> The question is, when did he create the Ravenclaw Horcrux? <<

meann:
> This is how I recall the events (I hope I'm right. :D ):  Tom worked
> for B&B after leaving Hogwarts.  His appearance hasn't altered
> much, but we know he's already got that red-gleam-in-the-eye thing
> going.  By this time, he's probably only attempted to make the Ring
> Horcrux.  But he could've gone to Albania at this time to retrieve
> the Diadem.  <snip>
>
> After leaving B&B, he disappeared for a while.  I presume this is
> when he went to Albania again to hide. This is probably when he
> made a Horcrux out of the Diadem.  Ten years after leaving
> Hogwarts, he came back to ask for the DADA job.  <snip>
>
> Harry assumed this is also when Voldie hid the Diadem-crux in the
> RoR.  I  think it may just be possible for him to hide it there on
> his way to DD's office. <snip>


Thanks Carol, but as about "when" I agree with Meann here.  I do not
remember that TR had time to leave Hogwarts to go to Albania during his school years (? I am not as detailed ?).

I got the impression that he did it after B&B (during the ten 'lost
years of riddles!').

Nevertheless, your angle on TR's looks is impressive - I am always
surprised to Carol's detailed knowledge.

As about the ROR location relative to DD's office, I do not think it
is a problem, as mentioned by Meann here, I am quite sure (no direct
canon quotation - sorry) that they are quite near.  And of course, TR has to know the whereabouts (and maybe even usage) of the ROR during his school years (I will be surprised otherwise! the founder of the CoS does not find the ROR? JKR should not be that sloppy :P ).  As about TR's bragging about the only person who knows ROR - I won't put too much meaning there - it just what it is -- bragging (as is 'normal' for somebody in LV shoes).

So, I still believe the diadem is put in the ROR during that short DADA visit - and it explains many other things as well. It also hinted at the time -when DD is wondering what is TR up to, since he knew that DD will definitely reject the offer, why the visit? We used to wonder whether TR got the gall to horcucify the sword during that short visit (something about tightening the fist?) - heheh - more implausible isn't it ?

Tal, finding that what fascinates me about JKR's HP world is not that
it is logically airtight (under deep scholarship's scrutiny :P ) series -- but the fact that she understood normal human being emotion,
obsession, mistakes --- this HP is not Virtu Melusine, or I am Legend
that deals with concepts and 'logical consequences under genre
guidelines' -- this is a full blooded young adult drama in fantasy
setting. The book is gripping and emotionally laden because of it.

The 'full bloodied' part also makes it difficult to interpret
logically at times - we have to take the story as a 'reality show'
sometimes (see how illogical are most of 'real' reality show), messy
unpredictable (and yes, this gave a lot of plot freedom to the author
-- and yes, the author took a bit too much of this kind of liberty in
DH -- ahh JKR's humanity!).

I dig the frustations felt by Betsy (I always loved your redhen
series! that is until you frustate yourself by DH that poisoned all
the henpen :P -- my sympathy!) and a_svirn.  But you guys are looking
for something 'not on the menu' most of the time.  No need to be so
toxic - IMO.

Read and enjoy, not even the Bible gave us these so many things to
ponder about! (do I sense a slight greener / more poisonous tones from
Carol's latest postings compared to earlier ?  Ahhh .. it must be my
increasing need for antioxidants!)

Tal