Slytherins come back WAS: Re: My Most Annoying Character

Angel Lima angellima at xtra.co.nz
Thu Jan 3 21:18:09 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 180308

Alla:

The only thing this comment showed to me was that sometimes or more 
than sometimes Dumbledore can be an *sshole.

I never took it as anything more deep than that - that author agrees 
with this comment or something like that.

My opinion of course.

Angel:
I will definitely take DD being an @$$ lol.

However he, of profound knowledge and wisdom who plotted just about every nook and cranny of this war even posthumously and whose word was command to almost all especially Harry, said it with such depth and emotion.

Alla:
Why is that? Harry never had been known for remembering many names, 
he sees Slughorn already, so many other things are on his mind - 
finding diadema, etc. You think he will be oh so very concerned with 
whether Blaise and Theo and others returned to fight?

Angel:
How many people equated this sentence with Slytherins returning before JKR said so, I wonder?  Even so, that is highly optimistic...drats to be me then :)

I cannot get over the fact though that Slytherin deserting the ranks was perfectly in print.  No question about it.  Their return would thus be a big issue yet somehow it is slipped in seemingly, deftly, subtly twixt a group of others that were mentioned except them!

The examples of Harry's misconceptions or skewed views based on bias or ineptitude cannot hold water here I'm afraid as the instances so far mentioned were intentional on the author's part, to lead the reader astray from what was actually happening...red herrings or as I had thought, to teach Harry a bigger lesson about preconceptions as his views were skewed by his own preconceived ideas of whom certain people and groups were.  At this late stage of the book Harry's view and narrator's had to be at the very least a whole lot clearer than listing returnees as friends and families of those that stayed to fight as well as shopkeepers of Hogsmeade to be construed as the returning deserters of Hogwarts namely the Slytherin house returning!

House UNITY is an integral part of HP.  We had been reading about it for 6 whole books.  Then in the final book in the final stance, Slytherins up and LEAVE!!!  Their return was paramount to unity and I cannot buy that JKR would slip that in so subtly we are in a state of fiddlesticks :)

Do you not also think that Harry busy as he was with saving the world would have been jarred out of that mindset to see Slytherin deserters - any that he would recognise (Theo and Blaise) return?  He would have mentioned it because he was in a highly emotive state, just as he drawled over all the houses standing between him and Slytherins, notice even with the same worries on his mind, he paused.  He stopped, he was jarred from his worries to revel in being buffered by the houses. Harry would have been gobsmacked at the Slytherin change of heart if there had been one!  He would have left the battle to sulk into his shirt lol.

Carol:
And will someone please tell me how the students who remained at
Hogwarts to fight contacted their parents? The only parents who could
have been contacted are those of the students who went with Slughorn
to the Hog's Head. Not to mention that Slughorn is not likely to
contact the parents of any students not in his own House.

Angel:
You did talk about an inconsistent narrator there ya know and I, sometimes a careless author <eg>
But to keep closer to what is in print, the DA and their friends and families got in via the DA channel and who's to say the twins radio network didn't put out the word before departing for Hogwarts.  It's a little wayward but not nearly as convoluted as believing Slytherins returned on the coattails of parents and friends of children who stayed to fight.  Notice too the goat suggested they hold onto the Slytherin kids for leverage.


Alla:
I mean I vehemently argued in the past that Snape could be 
deliberately opening his mind to Voldemort, but in light of all the 
information would he really do that?

How exactly was this information corrected?

Angel:
That need not have been corrected.  As the climax of OotP and DH verified, Voldemort was getting stronger and Harry was eager to see what Voldemort was up to.  Being privvy to Voldy's mood and opening himself to Voldy was the cause of his own distress but admittedly the lessons did weaken his resolve not because of Severus but of the nature of occlumency itself.

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