Slytherins come back WAS: Re: My Most Annoying Character

lealess lealess at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 3 21:23:08 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 180309

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" 
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lealess" <lealess@> wrote:
> <SNIP>
> > To put this another way, and to echo Magpie's lengthy comment, I 
> > do not remember JKR lying about what Harry physically saw or
> > felt.  Harry saw what he saw.  He felt what he felt.  He wasn't 
> > hallucinating.  His *interpretations* were incorrect, not his 
> > eyesight or ability to feel pain.
> > 
> > How do we know this?  JKR came back later to correct the mistaken 
> > interpretations with fuller explanations -- or at least, she
> > should have done, in the text.
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Not always and not as far as I remember. Yes, I agree with you 
> Harry's ability to feel something is often correct and when Snape 
> attacks him on first lesson, he does just that - attacks him on the 
> first lesson. Let's put aside whether Snape hated him - I believe  
> he is correct, but this is an interpretation.
> 
> Fast forward to Occlumency lessons - Harry feels pain, doesn't he?
> 
> Do we ever find out if Snape had anything to do whatsoever with 
> that pain? Do we ever find out if Harry had pain from the lesson,
> if he had pain at all or was it all in his mind?
> 
> I mean I vehemently argued in the past that Snape could be 
> deliberately opening his mind to Voldemort, but in light of all the 
> information would he really do that?
> 
> How exactly was this information corrected?
>

I don't remember the information being corrected!  This is possibly 
one of the things that JKR either felt was not important to the story 
or dropped the ball on, depending on the importance of the question 
to you.  To my mind, she dropped a lot of balls in the end, to focus 
exclusively on Harry's travels in DH.  There are a plethora of 
unanswered questions, things that will never be answered, until JKR 
comes out with something else that will hopefully be well-thought-out 
and consistent with earlier canon.

I can think of even more reasons why the Occlumency lessons caused 
pain to Harry, but most of these explanations would be pure 
speculation with little foundation in the text, and imagining them 
does not make them canon.

lealess





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