Biggest DH dissapointment - Lily and Snape

[zanooda2]

No: HPFGUIDX 180541

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "leslie41" <leslie41 at ...> wrote:
 
> Yeah, but they were extremely close and public friends for five 
> years.  It's not like people would "forget" that.

zanooda:

I still don't see any indication in the book that they really 
were "extremely" close, except for Snape's "best friends" words - but 
these are just words. Lily certainly doesn't behave like a "best 
friend" would in SWM, more like someone who barely knows him (yeah, 
yeah, I know, JKR didn't want us to guess about Lily/Snape, but 
still ...). And how would Snape explain his "extremely close and 
public" friendship with a Muggle-born Gryffindor to his Slytherin 
friends?
 
 
> Leslie41: 
 
> No, truthfully he wasn't discrete at all.  After he called her a 
> mudblood he literally planted himself at the entrance to Gryffindor 
> tower until Lily came out.


It only happened once, when Severus was desperate and felt it was the 
only way to make Lily talk to him. And it was the last time they ever 
talked, I guess. Gryffindor girls wispered about it for a couple of 
days and then forgot, that's all :-). Before that, I'm sure Snape was 
careful not to let out too much - it was not in his best interest.


> Leslie41:  

> Obviously Snape helped her with Potions.


I used to think that myself :-), but not anymore, not after DH. If 
Lily was that good at Potions only because of Snape's help, how come 
she went on being good after they split up? Slughorn would have 
noticed the difference. OK, Sluggy had a soft spot for Lily, but 
still, Snape helping Lily is only your guess, and not something 
obvious :-).

   
> Leslie:

> There's huge amounts of unstructured free time that they 
> could be together.  Or how did Harry end up with Cho Chang, 
> a Ravenclaw?  Or good friends with Luna, also a Ravenclaw?


Cho is not a very good example, there was no real closeness between 
them. As for Luna, she is just what you called her, "a good friend", 
not a closest ever personal friend. And if Harry for some reason 
stopped being friends with Luna at the end of his 5th year, in 15 
years no one would remember they ever were friends :-).


 
> > zanooda2:
 
> > I'm not sure you will be satisfied with my answer 
> > (I am not exactly satisfied myself :-), but it's the 
> > best I can do :-).

 
> Leslie41:
 
> Unfortunately I'm not. But that's not your fault--you're trying to 
> construct reasons and Rowling hasn't given you anything to work 
> with.


zanooda:

Yeah, sorry about that! This particular problem doesn't bother me 
much (although I can see your point to some degree :-), but there are 
others that *do* bother me, and I perfectly understand how 
frustrating it is not to be able to find an explanation ;-(