Slytherins come back WAS: Re: My Most Annoying Character/Now Rowling's control

[montavilla47]

No: HPFGUIDX 180696

> > >>Pippin:
> > It is now being led by a man who not only believes in basic
> > rights for Muggles but actually  knows  enough about them to
> > successfully work among them.
> > <snip>
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> I'm suspecting this is a Kingsly reference?  That's not really canon 
> is it?  I thought this was just an interview bone JKR threw out at 
> one point.  In either case, since Harry's actions didn't even push 
> the WW in the right direction (he really was all about restoring the 
> status quo, I thought, making life comfortable for *him*) I'm not 
> putting any stock into any actions Kingsly might or might not take at 
> some future, non-existent to the series, date.

Montavilla47:
I think what Pippin is referring to is the Muggle Minister's protest
when he's informed that Shacklebolt is a Wizard.  He cries out
that Shacklebolt is the most competent person in the office.

> > >>Pipppin:
> > Slavery still existed after the American Revolution, but I wouldn't 
> > say there was no progress in human rights over the previous regime.
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> True, but slavery had been discussed (tabled only so that the US 
> could win the war) and movement was made (ditto women's rights, I 
> believe).  What Harry did was the equivalent of helping the red-coats 
> prevail.  Harry *restored* he didn't revolutionize.  IMO, anyway. <g>

Montavilla47:
Heh.  What I was going to say was this:  Slavery did still exist
after the American Revolution.  As Betsy says, it was discussed
and tabled.  

But the story isn't just that "progress was made."  What happened
was that the difference of feeling over slavery was a major reason
(if not *the* major reason) for the Civil War 87 years later.  Some
of the states relied on slavery, other states officially banned the
practice.  The issue became so divisive that, by the 1840-50s, 
states could only be added to the union in pairs, with one "slave"
state preserving the balance of power in the Senate with one
"non-slave" state.  

It took a huge, violent Civil War, complete with terrorism, 
atrocities, and casualties that topped 30,000 in a single day,
to finally end official slavery in the U.S.  

Montavilla47